attn: all indie-heads.  just in case you've never seen/heard of this, 
it's just a really neat digest of reviews and things, usually weekly and 
usually a lot more up to date.  there's a good long review of edgefest in 
the middle third of this email, but you wade through some interesting 
stuff to get there.  just thuoght some of ya might like it...

brian, who won't be going to popx:(

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Date: Sun, 24 Sep 1995 12:01:38 -0500 (EST)
From: Eric Sinclair <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Bloofga Matic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Indie-List Volume 4 No. 39 - ridin' in the car car

Hard as a rock,
Harder than a rock.


      Indie List Digest!

        Sept 24, 1995

     Volume 4   Number 39


Laika   SWIM~   TOO PURE
Super Friendz, Jale, Edgefest 3
got to get to omar's house
ANNOUNCE: Fringe Music web site
AD: the miracle of levitation compilation cd
AD: Nation of Lies

welcome to the ever-lovin Indie-List, the first one of the Fall of 
'95. It's already rainy and cool in Chicago, and the shows are rolling 
in faster than we can report 'em. (incidentally, is it a coincidence 
that I *dreamt* about buying new records the other night? due to 
unemployment, i haven't bought a new record since, em, July.) onward.

on Monday the 11th, saw Pram & The Sea & Cake at Lounge Ax. Pram 
were, for the most part, enjoyable, with plenty of tinkling keyboard 
and drony, sonorous melodies. It was electronic-sounding music that 
gave the impression of being a little bit precious and antiqued. 
Occasionally they lapsed into "jamming," always an unfortunate sign in 
my book, but for the most part it was atmospheric and loopy.

I seem to review Sea & Cake constantly, so I won't go into great 
detail. They played what seemed to be a lot of new material, and a new 
CD threatens to appear soon.

More show reviews from us to follow in our next installment



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Joep Vermaat)
Laika   SWIM~   TOO PURE

Finally!  The weather has turned bad again.  Again I'm able to sit in 
my room without making pools of sweat.  Sitting behind a new Pentium 
computer, writing while music is blasting through the room.  These have 
been, and still are, busy times for a music journalist.  Lots and 
lots of excellent things have been coming this way.  Too Pure 
festival, Matador package show, Mu-ziq concert, all together with many 
interviews.  So expect some great stuff in future postings: Catherine 
Wheel, Mu-ziq, Tarnation, Bailter Space, and many reviews.  The Two 
Pure will soon be up and running again.  Loz, my partner in music, has 
finished his busy studying and finally got enough money to catch up 
with me.  With out a doubt, he'll be buying more records than me soon.

But let's get started.  In this posting, the long-awaited Laika 
article.  Swim~-records-review.  And the Too Pure live experience.


Experimental, avant rock, art rock, post rock, isolationism, all names 
of categories in which Laika has been put during the past year.  Without 
a doubt they belong in those kind of catagories, together with Disco 
Inferno, Pram, Moonshake, Seefeel, Main and Bark Psychosis.  But 
saying they belong there will probably scare most readers and 
inexperienced listeners.  Which is pity, because while Moonshake (of 
which Laika used be one half) often was too sharp and painful to 
understand in one go, Laika slips into your ears and brain without a 
problem the first time you hear it.  Musically they have more in 
common with for instance Luscious Jackson, ambient house or triphop.  
"Yeah, it's just like triphop, but much much faster," says the smiling 
face of the group, Margaret Fiedler.  "That kind of music is a lot 
better compared to what the inkies are supporting at the moment, 
Elastica, Blur, Supergrass and Menswear.  I detest the so-called 'new' 

During the interview Margaret slags off almost any band I mention.  
Even bands Laika has been compared with.  Smiling she excuses herself, 
"I almost never buy records of contemporary music.  So I base my 
opinion on what I've heard on the radio or have seen live.  At home I 
listen to a lot of jazz and dub.  So please don't put any names of 
the bands I slag off in the article.  I know a lot of these people and 
I know if they read this, they are going to hate us." The frustration 
against all those popular non innovative music is understandable.  But 
while Laika are being ignored by press and public, they get a lot of 
praise from fellow musicians.  They were asked to support The Young 
Gods for a major part of their tour.  And earlier this year Tricky 
asked them to work with him on an EP.  "He called Too Pure after he 
heard the record.  A wonderful compliment.  But he got very busy after 
the release of 'maxinquaye'.  Our schedules haven't met since.  But I 
think we'll soon get together.  A lot goes wrong.  We were going to 
do a remix for the new Mouse on Mars single 'Bib'.  But we just hadn't 
enough time left before the tour.  And some time ago I really went out 
of my mind.  An old idol of mine, Colin Newman (ex-Wire frontman) 
personally asked us to do a remix.  But we turned that down."

All through the interview Margaret laughs.  Even the most boring 
questions I ask she answers amused.  It looks like she's really 
enjoying her new band.  "Usually I do.  Laika is a close working 
collective; in Moonshake that was never possible.  David (Callahan) 
and I always did what we liked.  I have never compromised myself and 
that's the main reason why I was forced to leave the band.  After the 
American tour David no longer wanted to work with me." In Laika things 
are a lot different.  She has to consider her fellow bandmembers 
bassist John Frenett and drummer Robert Ellis (who used to drum with 
PJ Harvey), but especially Guy Fixsen (who engineered most of 
Moonshake's records) has a major say in Laika.  The advantages of 
having an experienced sound engineer in your band are obvious.  "Most 
of the music we record at his home.  He's got an mixing desk, we use 
his Apple as a sequencer, and we make our loops there, out of the 
results from fooling around with instruments and sounds hours on end." 
One of the instruments is her old cello.  "I've had a classical 
training for years and finally I've had it come over from the States 
after five years.  I've been practicing a bit and I hope to do 
something with it on future recordings." Since this interview Laika 
have completed their busy tour schedule.  But luckily they'll be back 
soon doing the Too Pure showcase around Europe.


During the end of the seventies and a big part of the eighties, Wire 
and Wir were one of the strongest forces in noise.  A force of which 
you can still find many fingerprints.  For instance take the nostalgic 
Britpop, or the new avant garde and also many electronic music.  It was 
Colin Newman who, together with Bruce Gilbert, gave the most direction 
to Wire.  And now he's got his own label: Swim~.  The four twelve 
inches I had the pleasure to encounter flow over with experiments on 
all noise frontiers.  Experiments that will give listeners much of the 
excitement you get from many of those old Wire records.

Firstly there's Colin Newman himself, with "Voice," a combination of 
dub, electro pop, guitar noise and his flat voice.  Then there's Lobe's 
"Placebo E.P.," which borders on trance house, without the pushy 
rhythms, but with strong pulsating waves of sound.  Waves that float 
through space like Roland 303s out of control.

The last two are parts of the Immersion Remixes series, on which 
Immersion's debut, "Oscillating," gets a complete overhaul by various 
artists.  It's a series that will continue to bring new mixes till early 
1996.  On "Volume 2" Fred Gianelli, Iris, Claude Young and Mick 
Harris (also known of Lull and Scorn), give us all very decent 
reworkings of the originals.  But Volume 3 is just a teeny bit more 
inventive.  John Ryman, Pablo Castraty, Paul Schutze, but especially 
Cylob, he completely destroys the original.  And makes it such a 
painful and skin crawling listening experience, that this should be 
added to Aphex Twin's personal white noise collection.

If these four twelve inches are the norm for this label.  Swim~ will 
be as strong a force as Wire once was.

TOO PURE showcase   august 18   Arena   Amsterdam

The trend has caught on.  Label after label comes to the wise 
conclusion that the best you can do is sending your artists round the 
world all at the same time.  That's cheaper, more fun for the artists 
and you'll get more attention for your label as well.  Earlier this 
year there was the remarkable Big Cat tour, now it's Too Pure's turn.  
There isn't a label in the world that gets as much recognition as Too 
Pure.  But they only get recognition from music journalists and 
musicians, people in general aren't interested.  Maybe that's Too 
Pure's own fault, because as soon as a band catches on they let it go.  
That's what happened to PJ Harvey, Stereolab and Seefeel.  The bands 
that remained did their best to please a reasonably filled Arena.  
Minus one, Mouse on Mars stayed at home, because of a sudden case of 

PRAM opened the evening as expected.  Music straight out of 
kindergarten, but with some really brilliant moments.  They haven't 
changed a bit since I saw them supporting Stereolab.  But that doesn't 
matter, this kind of peculiar music never bores.

Even Too Pure couldn't stay behind in the world of BritPop.  But 
MINXUS is a different story.  Harder and meaner than most, with a hint 
of PJ Harvey, Pixies and the Riot Grrrls.  A proper concert, by an 
okay band.

If I'm ever asked to make a list of my most favorite concerts of all 
time, then this one by LONG FIN KILLIE would be on top.  Their debut 
Houdini just hints at what the band are able to do live.  With subtle 
voice changes, hand movements and body language the dreadlocked singer 
caught the attention of complete audience.  This resulted in 
otherworldly silence during the whispering moments in the music.  The 
racket that followed gave an enormous sense of relief.  During that 
racket they easily switched from guitar to violin or saxophone.  
Multi-instrumentalists with a sense of showmanship and a varied 
knowledge of music.

Following this revelation would normally be considered impossible.  
Not to LAIKA, they also proved that were dealing with the best tonight.  
The long European and American tour has done them good.  The songs 
have changed considerably, the sound is more spacious, intense and 
complete.  The driving and pushing rhythms got a major part of the 
audience in motion.  A turbulent version of "44 Robbers" ended the 
evening explosively.  After which the audience only could crave for 
more.  But the license of the Arena didn't allow it.

   /                       [EMAIL PROTECTED] (personal)
 (/oe/) The One Pure  -->  [EMAIL PROTECTED] (my parents)
    /                      [EMAIL PROTECTED] (school)


From: Michael Ligon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
The Super Friendz, and Jale at Lee's Palace (Toronto, Ontario, Sept. 1 
'95) and Edgefest 3

Meet The Super Friendz.  They hail from Halifax, Nova Scotia, I 
believe.  With special guest Chris Murphy (formerly and sadly of the 
now no-more Sloan) on drums.  With their nerdish charm they played the 
catchiest pop songs you've ever heard.  Their appearance reminds me of 
Weezer but the Super Friendz write much better songs.  Featuring a 
slew of tunes from their debut cd on Murderecords like `Karate Man' 
and `10 1bs,' they brought the songs to life which in comparison was 
much cleaner sounding on record.  Bonus points to them for the cheesy 
stage acrobatics like Townsend-like guitar twirls and jumping off the 
drum platform.  And if Chris Murphy had to get an award it would have 
to be for `Best Keith Moon impersonation' because he was just all over 
the drum kit, and it got me wondering why he hadn't played drums more 
often in Sloan.  Long live and prosper to the Super Friendz (as for 
Sloan they'll always have a place on my turntable).

Jale came onto the stage after doing their own soundcheck and I got my 
place up front to see the lovely ladies up close (you see I have 
always had a thing for them, but then that's another story).  I sadly 
missed Alyson being there since she left the band but Mike on drums 
did a fine job.  Things quickly go into gear as they played several 
new tunes as well as songs from `Dreamcake'(Sub Pop) and the new 
`Closed e.p.'(Murderecords).  And all the while I was bopping to the 
music and loving every minute of it.  I never really thought of Jale 
as a rockin' band but playing live, they were LOUD.  I guess they 
couldn't capture that on record which hopefully they will in the 
future.  Quickly an hour passed, they did an encore (after much hootin' 
and hollerin' from the audience, especially me) with one of the 
members of the Super Friendz and sadly the evening was over.  I can't 
wait till they hit town again.

  `Edgesfest 3' featuring Sloan, Jale, Thrush Hermit, Treble Charger and 
  many more (august 5, 1995, Molson amphitheatre, Toronto, Ontario) 

A few things to take of note before we get started:

- I didn't get to see all the bands since there was a mainstage and 
sidestage plus the fact that my brother and I got there late.
- Not all of the bands are quite indie, but for the most part it hardly 
mattered with one exception (you'll find out later.)

...and with that we're off

With great joy we made it just in time to catch the Plumtree on the 
sidestage.  Under overcast skies overlooking the lake, the four girls, 
whose average age is about 18 years old, played a great set of bouncy 
pop which had the audience bobbing their heads side to side.  
Highlights for me included their song `Sodium Chloride' which is 
included on their new single `Water Leaked into my Suit' on Cinnamon 
Toast Records (I played this song for a fellow employee at work, and 
she said they sounded like the Go-Go's. I beg to differ, but then in a 
way they probably do, but I like Plumtree a whole lot better)

It's off to the mainstage.

Just in time to catch the beginning of Pluto's set.  They are on Mint 
Records and are from Vancouver on the West Coast I believe.  And after 
listening to their set I can't help but think how well they fit into 
the whole east-coast-Halifax-Pop-Explosion thing.  They played a great 
set of electric power pop.  Oh and I like their tour T-shirts.

Next on the mainstage were Change of Heart who have been perennial 
favourites on the indie-rock club scene for the past 10 or so years.  
They aren't quite indie anymore since their most recent CD 
`Tummysuckle' released on lunamoth records is distributed by EMI, but 
then I don't give a rat's ass.  COH specialize in their own particular 
brand of moody melodic rock songs who can rock with ferocity one time 
and and hover over a hypnotic groove the next.  The spacy keyboards 
are a nice touch (I've heard they are big Hawkwind fans). Recommended.

And off to the sidestage. (All this running, man, is a drag)

I got there just in time to catch the beginning of Huevos Rancheros' 
set.  It was total adrenaline.  To describe their concoction: Mix 
equal parts Dick Dale a la Misirilou, `Wipeout,' punk rock, with a 
Tex-Mex twang.  Shake and enjoy.

Off to the mainstage.

I got there just in time to catch the last song by Hardship Post.  I 
do recommend getting their latest CD on Sub Pop.  Presently they are a 
duo and are heading off into a new wavish/Elvis Costello direction.  
I'm hooked.

Next on the mainstage is Rusty who are from Toronto.  Just recently 
them were swept up by a major label.  They proceeded for the next 
1/2 hour of their set to get the crowd to its feet and play a good set 
of energetic pop-punk songs.

Finally the band I have been waiting for (but by no means the last 
band) is Jale.  For a band that I was so excited to see for the first 
time it was kind of a letdown, partly because they only played one 
familiar song, the rest being I think from their new `Closed' e.p.  on 
Murderecords and partly because I wasn't up close to see the lovely 
ladies of Jale(although I did catch a glimpse of Jennifer Pierce at 
the sidestage watching Plumtree's set) I definitely recommend them.

Off to the sidestage.

It's Smoother.  They played an energetic set of poppy-punk songs in 
the same vain as Face to Face and Green Day.  For their efforts, they 
managed to get a mosh pit going.  And if it were not just perfect they 
ended their set with a flurry of feedback just as it started to pour 

I'm running to the mainstage now (and I'm soaked).

Catch Part Two in a future issue.
And there's my 2 cents,


From: dann medin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
got to get to omar's house

salutations.  travel fr the summer subsided as unfortunate necessary 
job interfered.  projects still in progress: new york/england tape 
sampler w/ karate (since signed to southern), vitapup (also signed), 
the lune, musical chairs, jane hohenberger, & syrup usa.  it's free 
w/money fr postage, assuming that i can keep on snagging advance tapes 
@ the station of bad interscope bands.  the zine (i love you) is 
finished w/lots of fotos from shows attended last year all over the 
place (magic hour, team dresch, unwound, much more) & a bunch of 
interviews & articles.  it costs 2 stamps & a buck fr postage.  46 pgs i 
think.  women in independent music festival: mark yr calenders.

september 22 & 23, extremely cheap, & the secret stars, blast off 
country style, liqorice, champale, the new band w/3 members of ruby 
falls, delta 72, syrup usa, tizzy, holiday pilot, a showing of 
"half-cocked," and other stuff i forgot.  i'll do a full ad when i have 
set times, etc.  email for advance info.  will go on @ u of ct.  good 
performances this summer (since i last checked in): boredoms, engine 
kid, low, containe, built to spill, sun ra arkestra, bob evans, rye, 
los crudos, bracket, among others.

[due to the discombobulated publishing schedule of the IL this issue, 
we apologize for the delay in getting this mini-announce.  -es]

records that made the daily work cycle bearable: elliott smith, 
ornette coleman, olatunji, ravi shankar, unwound (old & new), mingus, 
& a cd version of eggs's "gov't administrator." after spending the 
summer doing md crap @ the station (whus in storrs ct) experienced the 
horrible jaded burnout thing.  kinda dropped listening to anything but 
my old jazz records fr a couple of weeks, the politics that barnacled 
themselves onto listening to indie stuff carried over & a forced 
eye-to-eye w/the cold passionless world of the music industry made me 
feel really small & alone.  there's only so many copies of a bad cd 
that you can throw into a wall.

anyways, looking forward to following unwound for a few days, finally 
seeing clikatat ikatowi (was grateful fr the review), drinking 
corporate beer & seeing shows @ cmj free w/out a badge (fuckers), and 
starting classes.  its also nice to see bands like karate, secret 
stars, & vitapup finally pick up some attention.  syrup usa too.  
focused bands fr the second tape (oooo- a series, maybe?) look like mo 
elliot solo stuff (she was in spore), jennifer from ruby falls, some 
spoken word folks, who knows...  to those returning, welcome back to 
school.  looking forward (i think) to the upcoming year.



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gentle giant records, a new label specializing in exquisite and 
difficult music from around the world, is excited to announce the 
impending release of "the miracle of levitation (experimental sounds 
from the united states and japan)," a 74.5 minute, 20 artist cd 
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jim o'rourke, ruins, ground zero, james plotkin, melt banana, u.s.  
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the cd is packaged in a handsome chipboard folder printed at fireproof 
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From: "James W. Thomas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
AD: Nation of Lies Album Release

Nation of Lies is proud to annouce the release of our first 
full-length alubum, "Blasphemy".  For those of you who aren't familiar 
with us, we're a San Diego based metal/industrial album in the vein of 
"Metallica meets Ministry".  You can see our spiffy URL at:

"Blasphemy" is available on cassette only (until some rich record 
company decides to license it from us) for only $5 (+ $1PH or a large 
SASE).  This is a limited time offer (i.e.  we'll have to raise the 
price a bit at some point).

"Gimme my $5 tape" c/o Nation of Lies; 894 N. Rose St.; Escondido, CA  92027

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