Alf wrote:
> I know all of us are hoping to get SLP up by helping HardwareZone.
> But I feel that we are being made use of at times...
> Why can't we concentrate on getting the cyberway hosting ?
Cyberway's hosting is not enough. And do you think without
producing results, we can get the Cyberway's hosting? Do you
know how many substantiation that we have to put through,?
Do you know how many meetings we have to set with Compaq,
Donovan et al? Do you know we have to meet them soon to properly
substantiate (Myself, Harish and Moonshi will be meeting them
soon) ourselves? Do you know we have to tell them what services
are we running? Projected growth and so on?
Your antics of "I just want to share Linux with my friends" is not
going to bring you far. No great man has become great without
understanding the social/political fabric underlying his time. To
paraphrase a bastardized version of Clausewitz's quote from
"On War" , "Technology is just an extension of politics and society
by other means".
This is a chicken and egg problem, but I doubt you can see it in that
light. Forgive me for saying this again and again, you may have a lot
of energy but as far as working experience is concerned, you are still
far behind most of us. You do not know what is needed in a real
world, even when you are handling seven servers in Singnet, you cannot
even perform on par with just 2 in 1-net.
> to run daily !!!)
>
> I just dun feel comfortable with the setup...
This is what I tell most members. There are no reasons not to join
or to leave unless there are STRONG ideological differences which
you cannot reconcile between you and us. If working with us
constitutes a conflict of interest, you can choose to leave. We will
still respect you as a friend.
When I conceptualized the whole site initially to 3 main parties, I promised
no politicking, total freedom of expression, and benefits through enhancement
of their individual reputation. So far, I have retaliated every single effort
to
form a leader (which would make the free market concept unfree) and I
think I have fulfilled my promise.
>
> Elvin
> -
> On Mon, 16 Aug 1999, Moonshi Mohsenruddin wrote:
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> > Guys,
> >
> > I am sorry if this email sounded as if I am rushing you guys alot on the
> > things that needs immediate attention but without us doing all these,
> > HardwareZone.com cannot generate the revenues they needed to pay for the
> > bandwithdh connection and etc. They are losing about SGD100.00 a day
> > parking their server in 1-Net serving nothing but basic services on the
> > sites.
> >
> > We need to streamline all the technical, installed applications and
> > services process and get all the services up and running quickly. I was
> > hoping all these could be done by end of this week and if needed, one of
> > us (maybe me or Poh) go down to the server room to stand-by in case it
> > (ns2.phing.com) needs a manual reboot and meanwhile the rest of you do
> > what is necessary on the 2 boxes.
> >
> > We can't delay this any longer as I am also doing some marketing for
> > HardwareZone.com and getting companies to host web/email on their servers.
> >
> > I hope we can all make time for it.
> >
> > Thank you.
> >
> > - --
> > Moonshi Mohsenruddin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Singapore icq:2595480 http://www.linux.com.sg
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Ng Kai Hoe
> > > Raymond
> > > Sent: Monday, August 16, 1999 3:55 PM
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: Some Changes
> > >
> > >
> > > As adviced, Phing has moved 192.168.1.4 forward
> > > to take a public IP to facilitate fail safe takeover.
> > >
> > > And as such, any previous configuration which depends
> > > on using 192.168.1.4 probably does not work now.
> > > Maybe NFS, and other stuff.
> > >
> > > One thing I expect to have a heavy impact is Elvin's
> > > mirror, you may want to change some settings on the
> > > server itself. Thanks
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they are.'
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