> Eugene, you got it all wrong here.
>
> We cannot have a forum situated in somebody else's
> website. This is as ridiculous as it can get.
>
> You do not yet see the implications.

I do see the implications now and I have no intention to have SLP use their
forum. When you guys get that idea. Come on.

> Yes, I know. If you help hardwarezone, it is _your_ personal
> problem, I respect your freedom, but Singapore Linux Portal
> has no part in that decision made by you.
>
> I expect the group to be informed by any offer of resources
> in the future by ANY group, hardwarezone or no hardwarezone.

Thank you for respecting my freedom and yes, I respect everyone's else too.
Btw, you are informed.

> Then we can come to a common consensus. We will NOT use
> a forum situated in someone else's website.
>
> To paraphrase Mahatma Gandhi, I would rather have a lousy forum
> that is owned by ourselves than to have a forum controlled by
> someone else. No way am I going to COMPROMISE our freedom
> by that extent.

Some on. I have no intention of asking SLP use this forum. Instead of
justifying
for me, you make it sounds like i am forcing u to use it.

Argh. I told him I won't be the moderator. Giving me sickening problems.

> > Anyways, when we are handling such matters, should we be more tactful? I
> > would rather SLP has an amiable friendship with HWZ than to make
> > relationship soured just over such minor matter. Please be rational.
Rants
> > and Raves a no-no. There are better things to do =)
> >
> > >Firstly, I do not believe HWZ will have an active discussion going on
at
> > all.  Working against HWZ( assuming a boycott by >SLP) is that they have
> > little or no expertise in linux at all. They are basically hardware
chasers
> > who want the latest and fastest.
> > >But nothing new ever works on linux(anyone get a TNT2 to run at its
> > potential yet?).Their site is orthogonal to the state of >linux. The
reason
> > why HWZ is trying to subsume other aspects of IT is becoz they have
> > basically plateued out. There is only >so much local advertising by
> > dealers/shops that can be done. Doing reviews is  no good becoz of a
bunch
> > of other overseas >sites already get the latest hardware and reviews up
> > first. The net model supports first mover and winner takes all type of
> > >economy with (near) costless provision of information. HWZ is too late
in
> > this respect. On the other hand, Linux is about >SOFTWARE which can be
> > obtained more easily than hardware. That is our advantage.
> >
> > Thank you.
> >
> > >Secondly, the expertise of the pple on this list and board I believe is
far
> > greater than HWZ's(not the overclocking expertise >though I think). Sys
> > admin, real programming(not HTML!) etc. If, SLP decides to do something,
it
> > can be achieved fast and >rapidly.
> >
> > Thank you very much.
> >
> > >Thirdly, SLP's members have an average age that is significantly higher
> > than HWZ I believe(from the postings I get the >impression). Most of us
hold
> > day-time jobs and have families. Our time is inherently limited for our
> > linux passion. So, with
> >
> > Some of us are students. me, alvin, elvin, who else? =)
> >
> > >these limited resources, good project management  and quality work is
> > required. I suggest that a contribution ranking >structure be setup.
Pple
> > who consistently contribute are promoted into the inner circle which has
> > decision making powers. >Those who just complain alot are
> > ...well...ignored....
> >
> > HaHa I can imagine how Raymond is going to react to this. I will leave
this
> > space for him. I don't have to reinvent the wheel.
> >
> > >PS : Raymond, I forgot to tell u that I have experience implementing a
beta
> > Altavista SDK. Do u want a  search engine for >SLP(not altavista though
> > becoz license prob but there are a bunch of others)?
> >
> > Hey lionel. I am very interested in spiders and search engine. mail
> > privately.
> >
> > Happy lurking around our list =)
> > --
> > Eugene Teo
>
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>  they are.'
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