>>>>> "Steve" == Steve Kowalik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

Steve> Matt,
Steve>  Your post may have been in jest, but i did not take it as
Steve> such. And no, Emacs definetly didn't win the debate, 2 or 3 people voted
Steve> for emacs, and the rest of the room (or it seemed to be) voted for
Steve> vi. Now, as a vi (and vim) user, i may dislike emacs, but that doesn't
Steve> mean you have lie and say _your_ favourite editor (as if you could call
Steve> emacs an editor - it has so much bloat its almost an OS)

Unfortunately, the debate was termed in such a way that the emacs team 
could not possibly win -- the emacs team was trying to say that vi
*was* for newbies --- which of course it isn't.  However, Xemacs is a
very good newby editor, which was the point made by the final vi
speaker.  So the pro-vi *team* won the debate, by making the point
that vi wasn't as good as emacs.

Peter C


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