> Rick Welykochy wrote:
>
> My experience with Mozilla (a few version ago): abysmal.
Try again. Grab a nightly build. Mozilla changes faster than Sawfish (and
that's saying something).
> Maybe us open source zealots should eat a bit of humble pie
> and admit that the Cathedral model (for example MS/IE
> or Netscape) does work better than the Bazaar in some cases.
What? Is this really you, Rick?
Netscape and IE are *released software*! They're meant to work. Mozilla
isn't, so don't expect it to be 100% wodnerful. Mozilla is definitely usable
day-to-day now, but don't forget that you're meant to be in "Bug-reporting
Free Software Zealot" mode... Not "Our Released Software Makes Your Released
Software Look Like The First Throwaway Free Sofware Zealot" mode.
> Let's see, Mozilla have been at it how long? 2 1/2 years?
> MS managed to usurp the entire browser market in the same time :(
Yada, yada, yada. There's lots of reasons for that, and not simply because
Mozilla hasn't been released yet. If Mozilla.org hadn't decided to go for a
rewrite, it would have been a hell of a lot more disappointing, and
definitely a "<nelson>Ha-ha!<nelson> Free Software doesn't work" situation.
The Free Software world is getting a huge amount of new technology from this
endeavour - not just a usable browser. Mozilla.org has done this The Right
Way. Perhaps you like Galeon better? Wouldn't have happened as nicely (or as
100% compliant) without the Mozilla rewrite and the pushed back deadlines.
> Their browser is world class and supports all the W3C (or should
> I say MS) standards.
Yes, say MS instead of W3C. IE is great, fast, stable, etc., but it's still
a sucky browser from a standards perspective. MS have spent more time
developing .hta and extended stylesheet and programmability functions than
actually pulling their fingers out and getting it right.
> Apologies for the heretical sound to the above ... it's intended
> simply as a reality check. Sometimes the truth hurts.
You have to look for the successes a little wider than "Is this browser
better than IE"... and how far those sucesses will take us.
I'm not even remotely disappointed.
- Jeff
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