On Tue, 03 Oct 2000, Terry Collins generated:

>My experience in upgrades is such that I never upgrade now, unless the
>machine it totally sacrificial and I have time to waste. Too many
>"upgrades" have gone belly up. I'm yet to experience a debian upgrade,
>but don't see how it will be different to other distro's.

ISTR Jeff once saying that (badly paraphrasing here) the way Debian
works is that its not one fixed thing for each revision of the distro.
Once you've played with apt, you realise that updating (which is a much
better word than upgrade when you're in debian-land) is incredibly
simple and it's the job of the maintainers to make sure that these
updates go as smoothly as possible.

Maybe I've been in debian-land for too long, but as updating for me is
such a non-issue, I see no reason to not do it -- especially as newer
versions are the ones that are actively supported.

IMHO, the crux of the issue is that we're dealing with open sourced, not
proprietary, software.  OSS is constantly evolving, so patches and fixes
come out faster than PS.  I'm not making a point about development
models, or upgrade paths, but you can't say on one hand you refuse to
upgrade your server, and on the other hand say you want your security
updates.  Surely the mention of the word "update" would raise the cluon
flux enough to realise that you're going to have to modify the system.

</rant>

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No, I was looking for warez.  The pornography was just a useful byproduct.
                -- Dave Coote


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