Thanks for pointing out facts Jeff. I'll just say one or two short things
myself....
- I have used every milestone of Mozilla since the original release of the
Netscape v4.x code. The amount of effort that has been contributed is
most impressive, and its been great to see the progress.
- Rather than whinge about the quality of the releases - "THIS THING IS
$H*&!! It doesn't load my favourite site - www.haveyourwhinge.com!" we
should be:
- reporting the bugs (or maybe discussing workarounds)
- testing the latest nightly builds to see if things are fixed
- provide _fixes_ to bugs
- Gecko, Bugzilla, Bonsai - as Jeff points out, Bugzilla is one of many
"Good Things" (TM) that have graciously been given to us.
- Some things I hate about NS6 - the fact that I can't get SSL working as
non-root (I installed as root), also debugging statements spewing all over
your terminal.
- Some things I like about NS6 - the Java and SSL support, the fact that
other than non-root SSL, it hasn't crashed once on me yet.
So.... Keep up the fantastic work, Moz dudes! Thanks for everything you've
done!
David S.. :-)
On Thu, 16 Nov 2000, Jeff Waugh wrote:
> <quote who="John Ryland">
>
> > Now would you all stop you belly aching about netscape. It's not as free as
> > konqueror and not even in the same league.
>
>
> Netscape 6.0 is proprietary software based on a Free Software project -
> Mozilla.
>
>
> > Netscape wasn't created open source and it shows.
>
>
> Netscape 6.0 is a complete rewrite. It was created from the sources of the
> browser released by mozilla.org. I'd call that "created open source".
>
> Why does it show? The technologies created or developed for this release are
> quite astounding. We have:
>
> * a Free world-class bug tracking system (Bugzilla, needs some work, Free
> so we can!)
>
> * a Free world-class web-based code browser (Bonsai)
>
> * a Free highly-compliant (the MOST compliant) web-standards (HTML, CSS,
> etc) renderer and embeddable widget (Gecko)
>
> * a Free cross-platform application development system (XPCOM, XUL, NSPR)
>
> * soon to be Free application and server level PKI libraries (PSM and NSS)
>
>
> Mozilla.org has not "just made a browser" in all this time! My rant is
> similar in nature to Jamie's disappointment in people dissing Red Hat. Look
> around... You may not use it, but they're making some damn fine software
> that will be in use wider and longer than a browser release.
>
> Add to that the goal of MPL/GPLing all the code, and you have a very
> forceful argument for the support of Mozilla.org.
>
>
> > I've heard the code is quite unmaintainable.
>
>
> Of 4.x or the complete rewrite that is Mozilla?
>
> - Jeff
>
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