On Thu, Jan 04, 2001 at 01:00:53AM +1100, Jeff Waugh wrote:
> <quote who="Dave Fitch">
> > so I went back and picked "simple".
> > The result was too simple!
> > I was missing most of what I consider to be a complete
> > system.
> 
> For example?

rlogin, rsh, etc and maybe telnet? (can't remember now whether
that was there or whether it was the first thing I installed
so I could remote login from my Sun rather than sit on the
floor squinting at the tiny slowly dying monitor on the floor)

popd (although I did get imapd so maybe that was me
picking the wrong option on install)
dos2unix and unix2dos
elm (i thought elm was a standard basic mail program)
simple commands like "file"
other things like tcpdump

> My usual advice is to install very little initially, and apt-get as
> required. It's easy, straight-forward, and minimal. I'm a BIG fan of
> minimal.

yep I'd agree (in hindsight), given how easy apt-get'ing is
 
> > There's a few oddities though, eg. I got exim as a MTA.
> > I couldn't work out how to configure it properly (well
> > I can't get it going from fiddling with the conf file
> > and reading the man page, so I gave up).
> 
> The exim config is reasonably good, however it's very badly worded and quite
> unclear to new users.
> 
> > So I installed postfix instead but can't remove exim without also removing
> > leafnode and other stuff I want to keep.
> 
> Debian does all the work for you. :) If you apt-get install postfix, Debian
> will realise that you're installing another MTA, remove exim, and leave your
> other packages (at least the ones relying on the presence of an MTA) on
> there.

ah-ha yes it did that but left remanents of exim behind.
eg. cron kept trying to fire exim off every few minutes, the
startup script was still in /etc/init.d, conf file still in /etc,
exim dir still in /var/log, spool dirs still there etc etc.
All should have been removed.

Now onto postfix, I thought it was going ok but just now when
I looked through the logs it sent a mail off to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
that was obviously supposed to go to me (ie. root@spiral).
I have told postfix:
myhostname = spiral.smartchat.net.au
myorigin = smartchat.net.au
masquerade_domains = smartchat.net.au
and the rest default.
It's probably the same reason I send mail to "fred" and it
goes to [EMAIL PROTECTED] instead of local user fred.
Ie. I've lost the ability to send local email.

I added the masq line cos otherwise outgoing emails appear to
come from spiral.smartchat.net.au which (a) isn't right and
(b) causes mail bounces from places that check for valid domains.

Dave.


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