Thanks for the outline. I will have to load Debian up in VMWare (lack of
machines ATM) and have a look.
I was using glibc-2.1.92-14 which caused and exception while using JPDA, had
to upgrade to glibc-2.2-12 before the debugger worked at all.
Now using kernel-2.4.2-0.1.28, XFree86-4.0.3-1 on Guinness and things seem a
bit better.. except for the VM memory and number of Java processes
generated, as well as the footprint/performance of Forte.
-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
Jeff Waugh
Sent: Wednesday, 25 April 2001 12:02 PM
To: SLUG
Subject: [SLUG] Java Performance / Distros
<quote who="John Gunning">
> I'm not beholden to RPMS or binary packages.. but I see this as a very
easy
> way to manage a multiple server environment, because I know that I'm
dealing
> with apples and apples - as well as ease of administration.
Much easier with Debian:
- Apples *are* apples; you generally don't need to go searching for
packages, nor installing ones from completely different RPM-based distros
that aren't necessarily compatible.
- Debian has TONS of packages, and you can backport (read: recompile) from
unstable if you need newer versions or those unavailable on the stable
platform.
- Just about all of the packages (especially server oriented ones) are
incredible well put together; good, secure defaults, etc.
- You can dive head first into the development of the distribution.
> My question about Debian was related to the fact that RH 7.0 for instance
> did not even run Forte for Java or the JDK without an upgrade of glibc
Which glibc did it need? This will always be a problem with any stable
distro; you just have to get the right packages built for the right version
of glibc, or recompile it yourself, or call the proprietary software vendor
and give them a piece of your mind.
> and system support for theading under Java was and still is creating
> zombie processes and chewing more memory than is believeable.
Wait, that's Java all over, isn't it? ;)
> I also get not AA support under Gnome.. which sucks.
There are no officially released and supported versions of GNOME that
support the RENDER extension for X.
> The upshot is that I was asking what other who use Java on Linux were
> using and their experiences.. in terms of IDEs, VMs, distros and
> performance.
In the end, it all comes down to your kernel, standard libraries and
hardware. The distribution is just the stuff that helps you not tear your
hair out (or otherwise).
- Jeff
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