On Sun, 13 May 2001, Secret Squirrel wrote:

> Hello,
> 
> What does everyone here think of
> getting professional training in
> programming (and programming in
> general) vs self study ?


I would definately recommend a degree course. Comp Sci at any 
big uni should do pretty well. Of course that is 3 or 4 years
worth of study.
 
> I'm considering taking a 40h course
> or similar to learn how to program
> "the right way" and get help in the
> mean time.

I really don't think you can learn how to program "the right way"
in 40 hours. Of course there is a whole range of discussion about
what exactly the righ way is :) (Which is why I prefer uni to
skills courses, at uni you actually think about what is "the right way")
 
> Who might offer such services ? I'm
> having difficulty finding companies
> that offer this, i've tried Spherion
> for example - there programming courses
> are pathetic.

I personally wouldn't waste my money on there programming courses, 
I think books are great study/learning resources, not those dodgy
"Teach yourself <language X> in (24 hours | 21 days)". I mean really
good books :). Stoustrop for C++, Kernigan and Richie for C, Design Patterns
for OOP, Knuth for algorithms, Mythical Man Month by Brooks for Soft Eng.

Most of the O Rielly series are pretty good imho.

Hope that helps,

Benno

(And yes most of the views here are generalised and I'm sure there will be
plenty of "Uni is a waste of time" ppl out there too, I guess it is down to
how you learn, personally I have learnt a hell of a lot at uni
(andyou get to drink a lot of beer too :))

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