ahh i just worked out why opera and netscape couldn't get to olb.westpac.com.au its 
https not http, when i changed that it worked and i was able to login. Once inside 
netscape rendered the page the best, in konqueror there was some weird overlapping 
that made it difficult to use the site and opera it was too large.

I guess i'll be using netscape for my internet banking from now on


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