Thanks Glen for the in-depth description.

All make sense, but I am still at a loss.

1. The boot bios is enabled.
2. SCSI device is on ID0.
3. SCSI runs fine once linux is loaded from a floppy.

So it is damb weird.  The is detected ok, but the BIOS fails to see an OS.

Matt

At Wednesday, 26-06-02 15:18 (+0930), Glen Turner wrote:
>Matt Hyne wrote:
>>I have been having trouble getting a machine to boot lilo (or anything 
>>from HDD) after an install of RH7.3.
>>Lilo is installed (and I ran it again for good measure) but the only way 
>>I can get linux to boot is to use the boot floppy I created at install time.
>
>LILO is a 16-bit program which only uses BIOS services.  So issues
>like Linux support for the SCSI driver don't enter into the picture
>at that stage of the boot process.
>
>Your SCSI card should contain a boot BIOS, this is detected by the
>motherboard's BIOS when the machine boots.  The motherboard BIOS will
>call the SCSI card's BIOS to spin up the drive as the machine boots.
>You should see the disk lights flash.
>
>Later the motherboard BIOS will go looking for a bootable drive,
>it will start with the motherboard (IDE) drives and, if there is
>no bootable drive on that controller, try each of the controllers
>on the ISA/PCI bus.  The SCSI controller's BIOS will provide the
>motherboard BIOS with facilities to di disk I/O -- in this case
>to read the partition table and the boot block.
>
>LILO should be loaded from that boot block.  LILO will use calls
>to the motherboard BIOS to do disk I/O.  If the LILO's I/O request
>refers to the SCSI drive then the motherboard BIOS will call the
>SCSI controller BIOS to satisfy that I/O request.
>
>LILO will load the Linux image, and then jump to a particular
>address in that image.  Linux will then be running in 16-bit
>mode.  It will move to 32-bit mode, at which stage the 16-bit
>BIOS calls are no longer accessible and Linux had better have
>a 32-bit device driver 'module' for your SCSI controler handy
>(usually in initrd, a initial RAM drive loaded by LILO along
>with the Linux image).
>
>   -------
>
>Since when Linux boots from the floppy and can access the SCSI
>disk we can assume that the SCSI controllr device driver module
>exists and works.
>
>So the most likely cause of failures from your description are:
>
>  - The SCSI controller's BIOS is not activated.  You usually
>    do this by pressing a magic key chord during the boot process,
>    which enters a configuration dialogue.  The option might
>    be called "boot BIOS" or "boot ROM".  You want it on.  You
>    can only turn this on for one SCSI controller in your system.
>
>  - Your controller actually has a DIP socket for a boot ROM,
>    but no boot ROM is in the socket.  This is only likely
>    if your controller is old.
>
>  - You have exceeded the BIOS limitations on searching for
>    a bootable drive.  You can only boot from the first two
>    motherboard devices or the first two controller devices.
>    So if you have a SCSI bus with 3 disks, the bootable disk
>    had better not be the last SCSI disk discovered by the
>    SCSI controller -- you influence the disk discover order
>    by using the SCSI ID.
>
>All this assumes that you have no SCSI issues.  Note the SCSI
>bus settings from the running Linux system.  Configure the SCSI
>controller BIOS to have the same settings.
>
>Regards,
>Glen
>


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