>Ok, just so I can get a better idea of what's going on, how did you do the 
>upgrade? CDs? URPMI? downloading RPMS and manually installing?

I downloaded RPMS after doing <rpm -Uvh ***.rpm> and noting missing 
dependencies, and kept going till no more dependencies

>and did you do an "install" over an existing copy or an "upgrade"?

upgrade

>were there any errors during the upgrade?

yeah, not every thing went in properly, messages on console said files were 
being written in right places but with different names, like 
/etc/filename.rpmnew

>the nobody user is perfectly normal. It's just a normal user account that 
>stuff like apache et al uses so that it doesn't have to run as root.

phew!

>Did you have X set up to start automatically previously?

yes

>take a look in
>
>    /var/log/XFree86.*

no such file

>Alternatively, if it is starting X on boot, log in as super-user on a 
>console, switch to runlevel 3 with "init 3" and run "startx", see what 
>happens.

ahh, error message:
error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++-libc6.1-2.so.3 cannot open 
shared object library: no such file or directory
a search on rpmfile.net found it to be in  egcs-c++-1.1.2-58mdk.i586.rpm, 
presently downloading

I can't log in at the console, though can get in if I log in as a user, 
then login as root via <su>

>ok, that's probably a security setting. There's a number of places you can 
>do that sort of thing. What's in your /etc/securetty file?

err, couldn't find this..? maybe not looking hard enough. (this is being 
done in another OS)

>I suspect you changed the mandrake security level when you did the 
>upgrade. Probably the easiest course of action is to get X running again 
>and use "drakconf" (which I have just discovered is broken on my system), 
>which I think has got an interface that lets you select the security level 
>relatively easily (it's also got a cute little software installer/upgrader 
>thing which might help you with upgrading stuff and staying up to date)


>>maybe I've been hacked when upgrading rpm while downloading?
>
>mmm.. pretty unlikely. Or rather no more likely than any other day. :)

LOL!, I thought it strange as I saw firewall startup when I booted computer 
in morning, and kicked myself for not testing it.

>>may I get a copy of mandrake cds so this mess can be cleaned up?

might not need it after all...

I can't give this much attention till next week, other stuff to do...
thanks
Russell

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