Voytek Eymont wrote:

...snip.....

> if I have users that simply have web server and mail server hosted, and,
> all they get is ftp access, is that the way to edit their 'entitlements',
> as per apache sample above ?

...snip.....

> yes, that part is OK, it's the permissions I need to understand, the pages
> are not served based on insufficient permission
> 
> so, I should give
> files: rw r r
> directories: xrw xr xr

AIUII

There are two aspects here, user & group ownership and user/group/world
permissions.

The way I approach this is to set the user ownership (of the directory
and all files and sub-directories) to the login user that can edit the
files. So each company would have a user that logs on to upload/change
their WWW pages and has "ftp" access to their companies file areas.

I set the group ownership to your server process (apache, nobody, ???).

I set the user permissions to 7/rwx
I set the group/world permissions to 55/r_xr_x for all directories and
most files.
I set images to 750 (and anything else I don't want spidered)

I make sure that all subdirectories that I don't want spidered at 750
(especially don't forget the ones listed in robots.txt)


> I see every user I've made gets a group made as well, should I make a
> group, say, web_users, and, put all users there ? then , manage it by that
> group ?

It really depends on what your client wants and what you are providing.
If you are providing a common access area, then having all logins from
one company in the one group makes sense, so that group has write access
to that area.

However, a login can have multiple groups (check /etc/group & "man
group"), so it might be easier (best security), that user "fred" is in
group fred, and group "freds-companyX" and group company-x-webmeisters"
(if need be). 

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