On Wed, 2002-12-18 at 13:07, Minh Van Le wrote:
> This is true. But where do you stop. What happens if somebody hacks login
> and starts sending your keystrokes over the net ? or iptables which tricks
> you into believing everything is being blocked properly, or one of your cron
> scripts ? :)

oh sure, you use the best technology available to you. All I'm saying is
don't assume that your system is secure because tripwire says so. Always
augment it with something else.

> I think it's safe to say that once a hacker gets root, you're finished.

well yes and no. It's safe to say that you don't know anything about
your system post-hacking (if indeed you know it was hacked).

> 
> At the moment, I'll try to make things as secure as I can, and when I get
> hacked again hopefully I'll have more experience to build a more secure box.
> I'll probably use Debian the 3rd or 4th time around. _Anything_ is better
> than what I had :) I didn't take security seriously before because it was
> too time consuming and I was busy learning other things. This new found
> attitude and motivation will benefit me in the long run :)

your call of course. I'm not sure this "next time I get hacked"
philosophy is the right thing to aim for though. For a home network a
firewall is the most important bit.

I'd recommend you proceed by setting up the best firewall you can and
then running Nessus from a remote box to see if it can get in. Not
foolproof but it gives you a way to gauge progress.

HTH

James.

> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> James Gregory
> Sent: Wednesday, 18 December 2002 13:22
> To: Minh Van Le
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [SLUG] General question Re: Securing Redhat Linux
> 
> 
> [snip]
> 
> btw - you wanna be careful with tripwire et al. What happens when
> someone hacks your box and replaces the tripwire executable with one
> that sends an email at the alotted time intervals reporting that
> everything is ok? It's better than nothing, but don't rely on it.
> 
> HTH
> 
> James.

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