> I fail to see why the ACS may be considered a bit of a joke in some > circles. (My opinion is that maybe its a case of sour grapes as in the > Aesop fable - ie. the people don't qualify to be ACS members so > therefore ACS sucks. I'm happy to be wrong on that one though.) > I have been out of this discussion my 5cents worth. I was a member in 93 and never got any real benefit out of it. To me I think ACS could have the potential to be a great IT voice but they are not, they don't have the political clout like any other group. We need a group that is willing to offer things like what CPA is to accountants, the barr is to solicitors and lawyers etc. The ACS does do not that. The IT industry needs to have a set of standards that employers follow and understand, the MSCP, and the like are not it. None of my employers consider the ACS as anything worth their while as ACS doesn't set standards. Most I.T managers I have meet and know seem to think very little of ACS.
There are too many definitions and job functions for System administrators out there in the market place. IT is one industry that is one industry that is completely messed up. I personally think it's time to clean I.T up and get rid of some of the cowboys (ex used car sales men) out of I.T. Besides those monthly magazines, and at time of my membership cheap internet access, offers for paid courses, I have serious doubts with paid membership to such an organisation. > ACS provides a quality service to its members and the community at > large. Additionally, it produces both a magazine and a technical > journal. It is by no means behind the times, nor is it biased to any > particular operating system. > > I am curious about the reasoning behind the thought that is contrary > to my own views. > > Warmest regards > > Mike > --- > Michael S. E. Kraus > Network Administrator > Capital Holdings Group (NSW) Pty Ltd > p: (02) 9955 8000 > > > > Matthew Palmer > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent by: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > 15/06/2003 09:51 AM > > To: > Enrique Vila > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > cc: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: > Re: [SLUG] Popular > Distros in Australia. > > > On Sat, 14 Jun 2003, Enrique Vila wrote: > > > I�m preparing my migration to Australia (not yet there) but I�m > > gathering some information about the linux world in down under. > > > > Is there any specially popular distribution in Australia? or is it > like > > in th US? > > Dunno how it is in the US, but here Debian, RedHat, and Mandrake are > all > pretty popular. The odd copy of SuSE pops up, and others like Gentoo > and > whatnot are seen, but the big 3 dominate. > > > Do you guys are all members of ACS? or any other organization? > > I'm StudIEEE, StudIEAust, StudAPESMA, but not because of my interest > in > Linux. To become an ACS member, you have to hold appropriate > technical > qualifications - which I'll wager half of the people on SLUG don't > have (not > necessarily a bad thing...). In the circles I frequent, the ACS is > seen as > a bit of a joke - an MS shill, and not overly interested in true state > of the > art. I think IEEE's Computer Society isn't bad, but it isn't local. > > > -- > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > #include <disclaimer.h> > Matthew Palmer, Geek In Residence > http://ieee.uow.edu.au/~mjp16 > > > -- > SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ > More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > > -- > SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ > More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
