There is another disadvantage.

You pay two  X installation fees instead of one.

Oscar Plameras
http://www.acay.com.au/~oscarp/rss.html (May Take Minutes on Slow Networks)

> Hi Bill,
>
> ADSL as the technician advised use copper line and is not good
> with RIM. ADSL is digital (ISDN technology) from exchange to your home
> using copper lines.  RIM is analog to digital at exchange, then trasmitted
> over fibre, and then digital to analog at distribution box in your area
> where
> your phone is now connected. Two different 'last mile' technologies.
>
> Suppliers of phone services prefer RIM as it is easier to install, simpler
> by technology, and less costly to maintain. But as far as internet
customers
> are concerned  there are two major disadvantages. First, when you
> connect to your ISP using 56Kbps modem your best download rate is
> 33Kbps because you lose speed at the two points of conversion. One
> at the exchange and another at the distribution box. Secondly, you
> cannot have your phone line and ADSL on the same line as ADSL
> uses ISDN technology,  which is digital transmission on copper.
>
> Now, that you have your phone(s) on RIM, when ADSL is installed
> it will hang off copper lines and you end with two independent lines.
> The simplest would have been ADSL and your phone to hang off
> the same copper lines. Of course you can always ask to transfer
> your phone line to hang off the same copper lines as your ADSL
> which should have been done in the first place except that your
> ADSL supplier and your phone supplier do not talk to each other
> and would not be able coordinate the work and the type of connection.
>
> What I will do if I were in your situation is phone your ADSL
> supplier ASAP and advise of the situation. I'm pretty sure they
> can help as you have contracted them to supply the service and
> I assume they have accepted or committed.
>
> Good luck.
>
> Oscar Plameras
> http://www.acay.com.au/~oscarp/disclaimer.html
>
> > Today I finally had the phones connected at our new house.
> >
> > I have the house wired for cable/data/phone with cat5 - 2 separate phone
> > cables - 1 for our part of the house  and 1 for my Mother's part.
> >
> > Two cables have been laid and connected and both connections work.
> >
> > It has taken nearly 3 months to get these connections.
> >
> > When the technician had finishedtoday  I asked if our line was ADSL
> > suitable. He said that both lines were pair-gained to a RIM at the
> "Tower",
> > but that there were plenty of copper connections available ( to the
> > exchange I assume), and that our line would be changed to full copper
when
> > I requested that ADSL be connected. He said that the work order was for
2
> > pair-gained connections.
> >
> > All of this despite the fact that during this whole process I kept
> > reiterating that I wanted a line suitable for ADSL, and the fact that my
> > Mother's old house, which we demolished 14 mths ago in order to build
this
> > new house, had a full copper connection (verified by the technician
> today),
> > and that she retained her existing phone number by having it redirected
to
> > our phone at our current residence. In other words, her phone was never
> > disconnected and therefore I believe that the full copper connection
> should
> > have been retained.
> >
> > Apart from signing up for an ADSL account with an ISP (not BigPond), is
> > there any other way to get a full copper connection to the exchange? ie
> > does a fax line require this?
> >
> > As we will not be taking up residence until we have sold our current
home
> I
> > would like to get this phone line "fixed" in advance.
> >
> > The only other alternative that I can think of is to get ADSL connected,
> > then dial-up from one house to another and connect to the 'Net remotely.
> > Being a relative 'newbie'  in many aspects of linux, I'm not sure if I
> > could manage this.
> >
> > On Monday I will be again calling my contact person at Telstra's
> complaints
> > line ( that is how we finally gained the connections), and any
info/advice
> > re the above matters would be appreciated.
> >
> > Bill
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
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