Richard Neal wrote:

What I do is ask the shopkeeper "Is this a AUDIO CD", if they say yes
and its one of those broken copy protected heaps of shite CD's, then
complain to everyone you can think of because its "ILLEGAL" to sell copy
protected CD's as AUDIO CD'S because Philips have defined the format as
NOT being copy protected CD's.

maybe i am wrong, and frequently i am i have to admit. but i think the problem with the "CDs" is not the copy protection (or the idea behind) itself. i think the real problem philips sees is that the copy-protected CDs are violating the CD standard and therefore the MI is not allowed to print the cd-label on the cover.


In Europe this created such a stink the CD's has to be removed of the
shelves and clearly re-labelled. This reminds me of iTunes songs and how

i can just describe the situation in austria: there is not really a law that you have to label the CDs or to inform the customer that he is going to buy crap (i dont mean the music itself :)) ). you have the rigth to give the CD back, but doing this is really a pain. it is really difficult to go to a big music store like virgin to get your money back. and removing from the shelves? never seen this in austria. as long as there is no law to force the MI or the music shops, this wont happen.


some buyers are now realising they now have "worthless" files with a
"limited" life license. Many people rip out the DRM stuff but they don't
realise that it's illegal to do so and nulls their original license
making them no better than the people using p2p as far as music Nazi's
are concerned.

yep, itunes is - like all the other online stores - a nice and at the first look a cheap alternativ. but for is the price for limited-use-digital-copy to high. i have to pay for the song, for the internet and for the mac and than i have just a copy of bytes, with which i cannot do much.


so, cya and happy new year to all, gottfried
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