Hi Sonia

Heres a little twist. I use RH9 (Fedora now) and Ximian Desktop 2. In
Ximian desktop is an app that lets you completely log in to any windows
terminal server. I have used the citrix ICA under Linux and it's not
bad......but this is better. Check it out. I have been a Windows
Sysadmin for the last 10 or so years and I've only switched to Linux a
year ago, ut my laptop needs to access all my clients old windows
servers (Until I convince them to become Linux sites). The reason I
mention this is so you know what level of stability and access I am
getting from XD2.

The other good thing about XD2 is that it is very good for weaning
Windows users across. It is really familiar to them and most of the
users I've tried have adapted to the new environment in no time.

So theres my 2 cents worth. Hope it helps.

Kev


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Subject: Re: [SLUG] accessing MS desktops from Linux


On Sat, 21 Feb 2004, Sonia Hamilton wrote:

> One of my clients is planning to upgrade their network, and I'm 
> pricing MS (Terminal services + a whole n/w of new desktops + licenses

> - ouch). What I want to do is put Linux on all the old desktops, and 
> have graphical access to 1 windows machine - what can I run on Linux 
> that will do this?
> 
> I know I can use VNC, but it's a bit clunky, especially since the 1 
> Windows app that the users need to access is their main app (which 
> they use all day).
> 
> Anyone had experience with the Citrix ICA Client running on Linux? It 
> looks promising.
> 
> Any other hints as to what I could use?

I've read the other replies to date and have more to add. I guess I'm 
slightly biased as I work for EverythingLinux which sells some of the 
products I'm going to mention.

Win4Lin Terminal Server 3.0 (5 users $882.75) plus 5 licenses for
(Win95, 
Win95OSR2, Win98, Win98se, Windows ME). IE no additional CAL's.

This solution requires a good sized server running Linux with a Win4Lin 
enabled kernel (they offer rpm's for various distros - plus open source 
patch). Then you install the Windows install files and each user runs
the 
'win' application as needed which launches a real copy of Windows. 
Licensing required is only for Win4Lin and the number of CONCURRENT 
windows users - ie it tells you something like "Too many users" when you

try to run it. We had a copy running on RedHat 7.1 for about 2 years but

decided to migrate it to a single workstation as we now only have one 
occasional user. (Laura running Photoshop / Corel for doing SOME 
advertising graphics which requires CMYK output - Gimp's catching up 
though).

The same server or another server could be used to support PXE booting
of 
the workstations and act as a Linux Application server (ie all the apps 
run on it with screens exported to the workstation's X server). This
means 
you don't need grunty workstations with disk drives or fans or any
moving 
parts.... and yeah we sell them too <grin>.

Another possibility is Wine or Crossover Office which is the up-to-date
commercial version of wine. Thanks to Code Weavers you can run an
impressive array of Windows apps without having a single copy of
Windows. MS-Office, Inernet Explorer (why bother?), Adobe products to
name a few I've setup for a client. For those that don't know this is
achieved by writing from scratch libraries that emulate the function
calls available to Windows applications and that's VERY impressive! It
is however why some apps don't yet run, they call a function that's not
yet implimented - something that doesen't happen with the solutions I
mentioned earlier.

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