On Sun, Mar 07, 2004 at 08:40:28PM +1100, Robert Collins wrote:
> On Sun, 2004-03-07 at 20:30, Matthew Palmer wrote:
> > * Version Control Is Your Friend (30 min).  Why you should learn a version
> > control system, and the basics (*very* basics) of using CVS.  While the
> > world seems to be moving to subversion, CVS is still very widely used, and
> > the basic concepts I'll be showing should transfer fairly easily across to
> > other version control systems.
> 
> Erm, no. CVS concepts and idioms are broken and teach bad habits for any
> revision control system with oomph. I'll be happy to talk about real
> revision control (a la monotone/bitkeeper/arch/darcs) if wanted. (I'm

OK then, Robert is doing a talk on "real version control" - and I'll be in
the front row.

> ignoring your slightly misinformed 'world moving to svn' meme.

OK, I'll amend it to "the CVS world is moving to subversion, and the Real
Hackers are moving to Arch"... <g>

> > If people could let me know their votes by Wednesday sometime, I'll spend
> > some of Thursday and Friday getting notes put together for whatever talks
> > are decided on.
> 
> I think for a bugsquish a talk on the BTS is good. And secondly, a 'how
> to fix a bug' talk - that is, not how to fix it for oneself, but how to
> get the fix up to the maintainer for them to upload (assuming that
> anyone doing NMU's already knows the ropes/policy). Lastly, a good thing
> to cover would be 'quality of fixes' - how to tell if your fix is
> actually The Right Way.

Not a bad one.  Use of the tools - diff, patch, etc, feeding it back to the
maintainer, and patch testing.  Add that one to the list, voters.  <g>

- Matt
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