This one time, at band camp, Grant Parnell wrote:

> If you're a 'larval' geek - you've learnt a bit of linux but want to go 
> further
> - getting involved is a great way of improving your skills. We have 'real'
> servers with many users, and an active geek collective. We encourage new linux
> administrators to get involved and work on the servers, and we understand that
> learning means making the occasional mistake...  We also have face2face 
> meetings
> and regular social gatherings, so we're not just about technology. 

Just to point out that uber-geeks also won't be turned away.  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
is a great way to use your geek skills for maximum good, with an
enormous number of organisations and individuals being helped through
the services we provide.  Also a great bunch of people in the 
organisation, with great ideals and a long and honourable history.

-- 
Rev Simon Rumble <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
www.rumble.net

The Tourist Engineer
Just because you're on holiday, doesn't mean you're not a geek.
http://engineer.openguides.org/

 "Alliance: In international politics, the union of two thieves
  who have their hands so deeply inserted into each others'
  pockets that they cannot separately plunder a third."
- Ambrose Bierce: The Devil's Dictionary

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