On Fri, Apr 08, 2005 at 04:53:57PM +1000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 08, 2005 at 02:24:03PM +1000, Matthew Palmer wrote:
> > On Wed, Apr 06, 2005 at 02:30:21PM +1000, James wrote:
> > > when I install something that I may not want to use all the time eg..
> > 
> > Don't do that.  Leave the symlinks in place, but rename from Snn to Knn. 
> > I've also heard that if you leave at least 1 symlink in place update-rc.d
> > won't recreate all of them, but I haven't tried that.  But update-rc.d
> > *will* respect your changes to ordering or S/K.  If it doesn't, that's a
> > bug.
> > 
> > Apart from being almost impossible to work out whether the symlinks have
> > been removed or were never added, it is more correct to change Snn to Knn
> > because that says "I do not want that service to be running in this
> > runlevel".  No symlink says "Buggered if I know what I want done in this
> > runlevel".
> 
> For what it's worth... the program "ntsysv" provides an interactive text
> mode interface which might be a bit easier to work with than renaming links.
> It's standard on RedHat... I'd be stunned if it wasn't widely available
> on just about every other distribution too.

Nothing about ntsysv in the package cache; but "apt-cache search sysv init
conf" gives:

ksysv - KDE SysV-style init configuration editor
runit-run - a UNIX init scheme with service supervision
sysv-rc-conf - SysV init runlevel configuration tool for the terminal
sysvconfig - A text menu based utility for configuring init script links

I would say all of those bar the second one would fit the bill.  I'm
astounded that the GNOME version (there will *surely* be one) didn't come
up...

> The only hard bit is remembering the name "ntsysv" which certainly doesn't
> provide any mnemonic in my frame of reference for "that program that renames
> the symlinks for you".

No less easy-to-remember than 'mv' for the same operation.  <grin>

> Maybe debian has the same feature under a different
> name (that wouldn't surprise me in the least).

In grand Debian style, we appear to have a plethora of them.

- Matt

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