Thanks Richard.

I see you have a long-term view of the cost advantages. Probably a little too long term for me, but I accept that it is a view appropriate for a business environment where it can be written off. I would hope to be replacing my printer with something better/cheaper (new technology and destined to include colour) much sooner. My Brother HL1430 yields an estimated 5000 copies for about the same price as the toner costs you mention and includes a new drum at the same time. The printer is currently selling around the $200 mark. It is fast and delivers top quality prints. I recommend it as a cheap way into laser printing.

John.

Richard wrote:

Kyocera use a Ceramic drum that lasts 100,000 pages and the replacement cost is about the same as a new machine.

If you look at the Brother 5140 ( $350ex new) the new drum that only lasts 20,000 pages costs $189->$212, and the carts are about the same price as the Kyocera.

Simple math shows the $320ex Kyocera FS-820 with it 100,000 page life drum totally massacres the TCO of the Brother printer over a 5 years period (take me 8 years to output 100,000 pages).

Each cart does 6,000 pages, prices vary New $119ex Refill $77 ( same toner as a FS-1010/20)

And no HP are not much better either, in some cases worse.

The so called sub $200 models are great if your not printing much but for a small office there the most expensive option, with there small toner carts and drums that don't last long (usually the cart and drum are one unit only putting out 1,000->2,000 pages).

One thing I must admit when I ordered the Kyocera FS-820, I thought it would be rather small going by the picture but its actually a decent sized printer with a rather spacious paper tray. Its also anything but slow and doesn't output pages that have that slight bend in them like many laser printers do. Also for those with Apple laptops there is a firewire port on the back next to the standard Parallel connector.


On Fri, 2005-06-17 at 08:21 +1000, John Gibbons wrote:

Sounds like a great deal and much cheaper to run than my Brother HL1430 which is a nice little machine. Can the drum/toner be replaced with a new one? Cost?

John.



Regards

Richard Neal

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