Peter Chubb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Henry> Hello I am having a problem with the Yoga AD-100 (Virtual 5.1
Henry> Channel USB Adaptor) sold by Jaycar.  When I plug it directly
Henry> into a motherboard usb port I get good clean analog stereo
Henry> audio. However when I plug it into a USB 2.0 powered Hub or USB
Henry> 2.0 repeater which is turn plugged into one of the motherboard
Henry> usb ports I get the audio overlaid with a very annoying random
Henry> continuous "tac-tac-tac" sound whose amplitude is not affected
Henry> by the player audio volume control. In other words the "noise"
Henry> is still there when the audio is off.

Sounds like unclean power to the USB hub.  `still there when audio is
turned off' is a dead giveaway.

Interesting idea - but I am not so sure.

Note that the PBT UM201 unit produced no 'noise' under the same conditions as the Yoga AD-100 - but that unit could have better power conditioning...

The impression I get with the Yoga AD-100 is that it is to be connected to headphones so it would not be drawing that much power. The two times the problem occurs are:

1) Plugged into a 7 port Skymaster USB 2.0 powered hub which uses a 3 amp 5 volt plugpack (volts checked okay with multimeter).

2) Plugged into a 5 meter powered repeater (essentially a one port hub) which gets its power from the host computer.

However in both cases having a hub introduces an extra time delay. I read somewhere that noise could be a sign of missed or repeated data. When I looked at usbview I saw something that made me wonder if the hardware data buffer in the usb chip itself is smaller for the Yoga?

PBT UM201:

Maximum Packet Size: 1
Interval: 10 ms

Yoga AD-100:

Maximum Packet Size: 192
Interval: 1 ms

Decreasing the 'Period Time' (originally 50 ms) in the ALSA Advanced Settings in xmms (which I am using to play audio files) had no effect.

What is really annoying is that this problem does not occur when the AD-100 is plugged directly into a motherboard usb port. I could put then quickly put it down to a 'non-standard' usb device and try to find something else...

Henry
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