I thought so too, until I tested* some supposedly 1500V transformers of the 
type used in NICs and found that they broke down at voltages a lot lower than 
1500V (I think the lowest was 500V).
Unless they are tested (and certified so), they may survive or they may emit 
smoke.
Needless to say I rejected the batch.
Now a faulty switch mode power supply could potentially put a lot more than 
240V onto the "low voltage" output, as they switch at a much higher voltage 
internally, like 400 or 600 V. That would break down an uncertified NIC. Kaboom.

- Jill.
* that was at Scitec many years ago.

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, 7 December 2005 11:45 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [SLUG] Re: [ot] Using telephone wiring for networking?


On Wednesday 07 December 2005 07:58, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> On Tuesday 06 December 2005 13:35, Robert Collins wrote:
> > On Tue, 2005-12-06 at 10:41 +1100, James Gray wrote:
> > > > AIUI austel certification only kicks in if you are connecting 
> > > > the thing to the phone network. If you happen to have a bunch of 
> > > > copper in the walls, that is not connected to the public network 
> > > > - it does not apply.
> > >
> > > And by "connected to the public network" they mean "in any way 
> > > through any device".  So even if you isolate your network from the 
> > > public one with a router or modem etc, you're still deemed to be 
> > > "connected".  Not sure if you're still deemed to be connected if 
> > > the external/public link is wireless though (they are more 
> > > concerned about electrical isolation than spurious data).
> > >
> > > At tleast this was how the regs were written back in '95 when I 
> > > was AUSTel Certified.  Things may have changed - usual disclaimers 
> > > apply.
> >
> > Jesus thats scarey. Why isn't my power socket AUSTel certified ?
>
> Because the assumption is that you are using AUSTel approved 
> network/telephone equipment which has been certified to meet the 
> isolation requirements.
>
> I've personally seen what happens to a thin-ether (10base2) network 
> when a PC's power supply decided to send all 240VAC through the 
> motherboard and hence the network card.  Goodnight Irene for 
> everything else too.  However, the same machine had an AUSTel 
> certified internal (ISA) modem - the PABX it was running through was 
> untouched.
>
> See the difference?

Ummmm ... when an elderly and distinguished scientist says something is 
impossible he's nearly always wrong ...

A nic card has an isolating transformer rated to some 1000v between it and the 
cable. For the 240v to escape A it needs a faulty transformer on A, then to 
infect B it needs another faulty transformer on B ....
James
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