-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, Feb 19, 2006 at 03:02:50PM +1100, Matthew Palmer wrote: > On Sun, Feb 19, 2006 at 02:38:05PM +1100, O Plameras wrote: > > > > For $25,000 stipend (or salary) per year one could continue University > > and earn a Ph.D. > > Because that'll get our "clever country" moniker back -- people who aren't > worth $25,000 a year doing advanced research.
I fully appreciate your sarcasm but the Ph.D. stipend also enjoys a rather good tax situation (or it did at one stage, things may have changed) so is is equivalent to a bit more than it looks (but still not equivalent to having a real job). I don't have a problem with people being underpaid for research when they get to share in the results of that research. I do think that it's a bad deal doing a Ph.D. (having tried it and given up) not because of the pay, but because of the lack of things you can use the Ph.D. for afterwards... Australia really needs to pull finger when it comes to getting forward-looking research projects off the ground and I'm not saying that I have a guaranteed method for achieving that but looking at the position we are in right now, we just aren't making it happen. > There aren't anywhere near enough Ph.D scholarships to cover the number of > IT graduates who aren't worth any more than that on the open market. On the > upside, though, at least if they're kept in a postgrad lab, they'll do less > damage there than out in the real world exercising their "skills". There's no shortage of: fast-talking executives who landed IT an manager role by playing a great game of golf; sales droids who promise the moon, collect their commission then scoot; strategic planners who invent ace buzzwords but have no concept of system design; empire building department heads who are brilliant at creating constant crisis to require a budget increase; and overstressed workers taking alternate doses of caffeine and alcohol. I'd go so far as to say that the "real world" can supply all the damage anyone is ever going to require and just a bit more besides. - Tel -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (GNU/Linux) iQIVAwUBQ/mZvcfOVl0KFTApAQIQxhAAjdjhNhjkrc3BHItqSU2bUftu8LyV4jRZ aHbBjUOfjHkjLJlrvYzPVw0OBWgbHXTegwkp289hOTiEwL2Ix8wnQuFJnsjktxSE NGFB6BpaEOi8ItyT2NK2/ppbVQ3Zxw98JS2EuncnTwpjI+Ok6oORT7Xjx/2faO4E BMKfydA2ZEoc8nViEujjnRtnRS04X+1WwiwwYtdna2SQNA/lYPbPzAyTyeV9TePq f+MyInsyvpcUP1HIwhWOzUb5Xgad7MNKKYhQuLBuu0LrAI0PJ6lXuNi/99pQQb8v rbch4hSDxGK2z8D3eYiQWyVqMfU+liaMpTJw4u65wGQm0m8fL5Br4iCf5PFLOl8T HkHCMOHeghXYaRgk003JfClBVODdZDo0r2wFy3RhMHZ5jOzPUr6ngnnXOdmkvF6K BxSLwG+L8e4LO7BTWZ33H2XGGihcgxfnyipkabG0435aQuJva66oJRejyXiinjJB zs0A/LxRcHnHXjkr6vrtIORClzFfS2ZassSIRH+GHLSBrujAn1SOL/2BDTMKAsN+ gVozNMIqozXS6lZyR3Jz/aSji98DWpKt2SurWQM8AVOo2THRa73o7eUDyRqo6OtL BtjIIZKgp0ZaIYgohj+o94QoZlbDJqNh6tBmx8Qud1GNv7VanvJukGAwi0+rpN1/ Ln//iQ7Hwyk= =K6J2 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
