Bohdan,
 
I think that most Linux users (fanatics even ) would agree with you that there is a tradeoff in choosing between Linux and Windows. Granted that if I go to the store and buy a big-brand computer it with Windows it will just work. And I can go buy hardware and software and it will just work mostly. So while many Linux'ers might say or think that Windows is "bad", it does basically do the job that it is meant to do. So what do you lose by running Windows?
 
* The main thing for me is it's opacity. After 6 months when my Windows computer all clags up with software that has never been tested to work together, how do I fix it? I might be lucky and be able to uninstall and reinstall, muck with the registry or somesuch. But inevitable I will have to reinstall - and the reason is that so much is hidden from the user. Not being transparent and open may mean I have to pay someone a lot to fix it. I might have to wait for the vendor to come up with a fix, or even have to pay for the upgrade when it comes. I will find it difficult to be able to trace what is going because of the closed nature of the software limiting my visibility. (Yes there are books and specifications and the like, but these only go so far).
* Because of the need to support very old APIs (going back to Windows 3.0 even) and without publishing how these things work, the software needs to become big and bloated. It even needs to support previous mistakes made by application developers, and support that software in the same way it used to on every new OS upgrade. Hence it consumes far more resources than is needed by Linux to do the same job. ( I am at this moment running a 2GHz Laptop with WinXP with 768MB - it feels less responsive than a 800MHz laptop with 256MB of RAM running Ubuntu Linux. And this is basically untuned - by judicious decisions on what daemons should run, what kernel functions I really need, you can probably make this better). Unfortunately with Windows it is very hard to know what to tune to fix these issues.
* There are lots of applications for Windows that will meet by needs. But unfortunately until I buy them I can't really try them. In Linux and open-source I don't have that constraint. I can also seek to change the application to suit my needs, if directly by hacking the code (or paying someone to do it for me) or indirectly through filing bug requests, and the like.
 
So why is Windows the main game still?
 
* Yes it does work quite well and is feature rich. But this is really because of it being entrenched in the market more than anything. Sadly this means that for games vendors and hardware vendors (that make drivers) that directly need/want to make money from the sale of product, this is where they will be aim for. However if Linux breaks through (and it is IMHO slowly but surely) then this will get there attention.
* Because of the market size it is the "safe" and default option for home and business alike. There are load of people that know the quirks of Windows, experienced in supporting it, and so forth. Support services for Linux based systems are still not yet ubiquitous (at least not as accessible as those for Windows). Again, I believe this is changing quickly - many of my work colleagues who had basically only ever worked with Windows (not even UNIX) have now had a chance to play with the modern Linuxes. Many of them like what they see (but of cause the bulk of the work is still for Windows customers - so the cycle must continue for a little while yet)
 
So I will grant you that Linux is still a bit hard. It is a bit like moving to another country where they have a different language, different voltages and power points, and they use imperial nuts and you just bought new metric spanners.( I have pretty well all the hardware working in Linux on my laptop now - it hibernates and wakes-up, my camera, printer and scanner "just worked" - though I had to compile the kernel module for orinoco USB wireless chipset. However I have PCMCIA smart card that will basically never work - because the vendor is closed source only). Yes, I do  tweak config files with a text editor. But a lot of that is simply because I like to - and also because I don't probably explore the Gnome menus enough. I am trying to force myself to use the GUI - just so I can be my own n00by. I feel that many of the distros are reaching the "nanna" point - ready for deployment on you grandmother's computer who lives down the coast.
 
But Bohdan, stick in there, it is getting there. Linux is breaking through - quicker than ever as the community grows and people begin to realise it's value. It does take all of us though to make it better. So get in there , join the support forums or IRC channels, write up a blog of how you got something to work, write an update to a manual page, or sit down with a friend who can't affford a grunty box to run Windows and install Linux and watch their eyes light up. There are lots of things to do make Linux really go places - just a little work and patience and probably a lot of love, but that sounds a bit mushy :-)
 
Regards, Martin
 
 
 
 

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bohdan S
Sent: Thursday, 16 March 2006 6:48 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [email protected]
Subject: [SLUG] Re: [SCLUG] Re: Interesting view

I dont like how all these Linux users bag Windows SOOOO much..... If it wasent for windows how many of us would own a computer right now? we owned a amstrad before a 486 and my mother was to scared to learn how to use the amstrad and windows 3.1 all she did was connect to the net and use netscape it wasent until windows as we know it (9x) came around that she relised the potential of a computer! and how many things (ie wireless, PnP, hardware support you know what i mean) JUST WORK in windows (maybe some fidling) but i still to this day have not found anyone who can get linux + wireless working at the university..... and what about powersaving or lets go to deskto machines what games are there that JUST RUN in linux? without having to recompile one thing or another or edit some config file.... im not saying linux is bad and windows is great... im saying EACH have there own place computers NEED both... and now we also have Mac OSX.... LOL so we dont need either anymore ;) ;) (btw i dont really like OSX i just like to annoy people :P ).
so lets try and get more windows and linux together and less baggin windows because all us leet *nix users who cant play games or use our usb toys (hehehe mug warmer.....) but have a OS noone else understands lol.
Well thats MY 2cents now i gota hide me email so i dont get flammed lol (j/k)

On 3/16/06, Matt Palmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:
On Thu, Mar 16, 2006 at 08:24:11AM +1100, ashley maher wrote:
> An interesting interview.
>
> http://www.itwire.com.au/content/view/3629/106/
>
> <quote>
> Windows is more reliable than Linux.
> </quote>

It's all about perspective.  When it comes to relying on your OS to be full
of holes and chock full of viruses, you'd have to admit that Windows *is*
far more reliable than Linux.

- Matt

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