Julio Cesar Ody wrote:
(not replying to poster, but to the conversation)

Really, who cares about the name? Was the name Google that made it a
success in the SE world? That's obvious enough. I feel silly by saying
it.

It's the "put out a decent desktop distro" bit that's not been
achieved. Not the "best name". How can one believe that desktop Linux
hasn't catched up because of that?

The desktop Linux effort is scattered. It's like politics. A group
believes it should be done this way. Another group believes it should
be done that way. And another... and another... and so on. Thus, the
hundred-distro-one-for-each-task syndrome. ALL OF THEM fail to deliver
a desktop experience that's as user friendly as Windows XP.

I'm sorry, I don't think you could ever call the desktop experience of Windows "friendly". Personally I find it very un-intuitive.


Simple reasoning:
- lots of things don't work as they should.

... examples...

- to install software ABC it's *not* just a matter of putting a CD in
a drive, having an installation screen popping up and one clicking
"install".

that's not necessarily a bad thing - think Sony BMG DRM...

- There's nothing like COM for Linux yet.
- <insert another example here>

As long as this is true, you'll need to market the idea better than MS
does with Windows, because their system might not work properly every
time, but at least they were the ones who *defined* what user-friendly
means.


On 3/16/06, Jeff Waugh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

<quote who="Howard Lowndes">

Jeff Waugh wrote:

<quote who="Howard Lowndes">

Why doesn't someone just put out a decent desktop distro called "Linux
Home"...

Because brands make statements and associations that people identify
with.  Do you drink STATE VODKA or STOLICHNAYA [1]? Do you drink NSW
APPROVED BEER or VB? DENIM TROUSERS or LEVI 501s? Do you use WEB BROWSER
or FIREFOX?

So why do ppl use "Windows"...

Because it's a great brand name that means a whole lot more than OPERATING
SYSTEM. Of course, being a pretty old brand name now, it's accumulated a
whole stack of warts. :-)


I don't know about you, but "Ubuntu" is distinctive enough to catch my
eye, meaningful enough to take a place in my brain, and has grown to
mean so many more things through association with the product and
community that it's now unforgettably linked with warmth, quality and
friendliness.

Well, I'm sorry, but it takes me back to my time in East Africa in the
'60s when everything was "Uhuru this", or "Uhuru that"; uhuru meaning
freedom, it did nothing for the African independence movements...

That's okay, brands have different associations for everyone. I'm glad we
have been able to spread the idea of Ubuntu beyond its home, and I hope we
live up to it.

- Jeff

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