On Mon, 27 Mar 2006 16:50:23 +1100 Howard Lowndes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Alan L Tyree wrote: > > On Mon, 27 Mar 2006 15:49:32 +1100 > > Howard Lowndes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > >> > >>Alan L Tyree wrote: > >> > >>>On Mon, 27 Mar 2006 13:19:12 +1100 > >>>Alan L Tyree <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>>On Mon, 27 Mar 2006 12:48:45 +1100 > >>>>Howard Lowndes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>>Peter Hardy wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>>On Mon, 2006-03-27 at 11:48 +1100, Peter Hardy wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>>I need something able to run Windows XP Pro (that's the only > >>>>>>>current Windows licence I have). > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>As an aside, I've been wondering about the legalities of this. > >>>>>> > >>>>>>My laptop dual-boots Windows XP and Linux. I'm planning on using > >>>>>>the same licence for the native XP install, and the virtual one > >>>>>>under Linux. Gut feeling tells me that should be perfectly OK. > >>>>>>Although I'm not sure if I'll have any sort of activation > >>>>>>issues, or MS lawyers knocking on my door. > >>>>> > >>>>>I think if you read the EULA very carefully that you will be in > >>>>>breach of the licence, and if you have activated it as native > >>>>>then you almost certainly won't be able to activate it again > >>>>>because the reported config will be different; but then IANAME > >>>>>(I am not a Microsoft expert) > >>>> > >>>>Neither am I. And I have not looked at the EULA for a long time, > >>>>but the last time I did it seemed to be tied to the machine > >>>>rather than to the way that it was invoked. I really hope that I > >>>>don't need to look at it for another very, very, very long time. > >>> > >>> > >>>OK, against my better judgment I just had a look at the Windows 98 > >>>EULA. The licence is to install it on one computer, but there are > >>>no stated restrictions on how that installation might be done. So, > >>>my quick opinion (with no warranties at all - see below :-)) is > >>>that it can be installed under qemu provided that the software > >>>came with, or was purchased for, the machine in question. > >> > >>Is that the EULA that is with the product CDs or is it the current > >>EULA? > > > > > > The EULA that is in my licenced copy of W98. > > ...which is not necessarily the current EULA for that product. > > > > > > >>>Also interesting that the warranties (such as they are) are limited > >>>to 90 days in those jurisdictions which permit such limitation. Not > >>>exactly a roaring vote of confidence in the product, is it? > >> > >>None whatsoever as the warranty only covers the distribution media > >>itself not the software written to it after it has been installed. > > > > > > There are some really interesting questions about the application of > > statutory warranties under the Free Trading Acts and/or the Trade > > Practices Act. > > ...you could also go on about "merchantable quality", but the > argument is that M$ don't sell you the software, they only sell you > the distribution media; they licence you to use the software, under > their variable terms, in return for a one time fee. I find it hard > to believe that ACCC have not looked at this very closely in > relation to TPA. I hope you are right. But the beauty of the TPA formulation is that it doesn't need to be a "sale", only a "supply" and the interpretation of "supply" has been pretty broad. I was thinking more of the "fitness for purpose" since you need to buy a whole lot of other software to allow you to connect safely to the Internet. > > > > > > >>> > >>>>>-- > >>>>>Howard. > >>>>>LANNet Computing Associates - Your Linux people > >>>>><http://lannetlinux.com> When you want a computer system that > >>>>>works, just choose Linux; When you want a computer system that > >>>>>works, just, choose Microsoft. -- > >>>>>Flatter government, not fatter government; abolish the Australian > >>>>>states. > >>>>> > >>>>>-- > >>>>>SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - > >>>>>http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: > >>>>>http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html > >>>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>-- > >>>>Alan L Tyree http://www2.austlii.edu.au/~alan > >>>>Tel: +61 2 4782 2670 Mobile: +61 428 148 071 > >>>>Fax: +61 2 4782 7092 FWD: 615662 > >>>>-- > >>>>SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - > >>>>http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: > >>>>http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html > >>>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>-- > >>Howard. > >>LANNet Computing Associates - Your Linux people > >><http://lannetlinux.com> When you want a computer system that works, > >>just choose Linux; When you want a computer system that works, just, > >>choose Microsoft. -- > >>Flatter government, not fatter government; abolish the Australian > >>states. > >> > >>-- > >>SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ > >>Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html > >> > > > > > > > > -- > Howard. > LANNet Computing Associates - Your Linux people > <http://lannetlinux.com> When you want a computer system that works, > just choose Linux; When you want a computer system that works, just, > choose Microsoft. -- > Flatter government, not fatter government; abolish the Australian > states. > > -- > SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ > Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html > -- Alan L Tyree http://www2.austlii.edu.au/~alan Tel: +61 2 4782 2670 Mobile: +61 428 148 071 Fax: +61 2 4782 7092 FWD: 615662 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
