<quote who="dave kempe">

> Robert Collins wrote:
> > for future reference: 'dpkg --force-depends -P udev' will remove it and
> > leave ubuntu-minimal and initramfs-tools in place.
> 
> hrmm I thought it was a cardinal debian sin to use --force?

In *very* particular cases, usually involving heavily broken systems, you
just have to use --force to get anywhere at all. But in common usage, it's
very rare that it would be required.

Mary did the right thing, because to solve her problem, she didn't need to
use force at all - she just needed to remember what was removed as a result
of the changes she needed to make. I think Rob is suggesting it as a way to
avoid removing the other packages, but it's a bit over the top for that.

I can count the times I've had to use --force on Debian/Ubuntu systems on
one hand, and most of those were cleanups after someone broke the system
with unnecessary use of --force. :-)

Norty Rob!

- Jeff

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