On Monday 04 December 2006 07:49, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >> Here's an ethical question for you. I have a middle aged friend who
> >> wants to "learn computers"; he's never used computers before (he's a
> >> builder). In exchange for some work he's doing for me, I'm going to
> >> install everything, get him connected to the net and teach him how to do
> >> email, use the internet, write basic documents, and whatever else comes
> >> up (eg playing music, watching videos). As a builder he also wants to be
> >> able to submit documents to councils - I haven't been able to pin down
> >> the format required by councils yet.

[snip]

> I've had similar experiences, I have put linux on for my parents, 3 guys
> at work and quite a number of other people. Usually this is after their
> existing OS dies under a pile of virus's worms etc, but a couple where
> just plain new users. If you approach it the right way, and explain that
> most people will tell them that windows is somehow better, then they
> fair just fine.  Everyone I have converted to date, have loved and stuck
> with Linux, despite their friends telling them they are mad. My brother
> in law actually got told not to let me install Linux cause it is not
> stable and just crashes all the time (this from a windows user!)
>
> In saying all that, it really does depend on the person. There was one
> person I installed windows for, and that was my grandmother, she lives
> just too far away for me to give her tuition on sending email etc etc,
> so she goes to community computer classes, and of course they use
> windows, so for her it was right.
>
> My opinion, is, only install Linux for him, if you are willing to finish
> the job, ie make sure EVERYTHING he is likely to do is already set up.
> Make sure all video codecs work, set openoffice to auto save in .doc and
> .xls format, put flashplayer 9 on as well as java etc etc. Even install
> dvd shrink (wine is fine, you dont need crossover), I normally put dvd
> shrink on for people as the evolutionary line dictates that as they get
> better, they will want to do the cool stuff their friends are doing, I
> also make an icon on the desktop that runs a script to run dvdbackup,
> cause dvdshrink just does not cut it for decryption these days.

[snip]

I guess the key issue is the intended use:
linux is not a good option for an avid desktop user who wants to do all stuff, 
and is linux-unaware.
The cases I cite, and the case Sonya presents are for a stable system that 
does the exact same thing year after year, without fuss or bother, and does 
not ever do new-stuff etc. In that situation it is a good fit.

Show me the most sophisticated winders user who did not need to reinstall 
after a year or so!

James  
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