On Tuesday 23 January 2007 08:52, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> They need to educate their own staff before they worry about the
> customers' computers!
>
> (These experiences from UK banks, but I'm sure they apply here too.)
>
> I've regularly had my bank phone me up and say they're from the bank,
> then ask me all the security questions.  I refuse to give it to someone
> I can't verify.  I've only had one instance where the bank staff member
> knew how to solve this problem, which was for me to phone them back
> using the number printed on the card and ask for a specific person.
>
> Of course, they should be educating their customers by calling and
> asking them to phone back in this manner EVERY TIME.
>
> Then while travelling around Europe I needed to change some of my
> settings.  The person on the phone suggested I use the Internet banking.  
> When I pointed out that the only Internet access I had was Internet
> cafes where all the computers are loaded to the hilt with crapware, they
> still encouraged me to use the Internet banking site.
>
> A really simple two-factor authentication is for them to sms a
> single-use token to your mobile phone.  This solves the "something you
> have + something you know" problem.  Yes, if someone robs you AND
> somehow gets your password, you're stuffed.  But that's less likely than
> being keylogged by crapware, which is really the problem they're trying
> to solve.

There are real people, who don't have a mobile !!! ie me!

My sister-in-law is visiting Perth from Johannesburg. She tried to do some 
banking, the one-day-key was sms'd to her phone which does not exist as she 
had a prepaid simm for Oz in her phone and chaos! account frozen! etc etc!

This really simple solution is a really crummy idea!
James
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