On Mon, Jul 23, 2007 at 09:24:32PM +0930, Glen Turner wrote:
> On Mon, 2007-07-23 at 18:51 +1000, Alex Samad wrote:
> 
> > I found a  USB to DB9M RS-232 Converter at jaycar. My problem is, the 
> > serial 
> > ports on the DL are 3.3v.  Will these devices handle that properly ?
> 
> I don't know about the device, but generally 3.3V refers to a Low
> Voltage TTL signal:
>   Asserted output     2.4V
>   Asserted input      2.0V
>   Non-asserted output 0.4V
>   Non-asserted input  0.8V
> (from memory, you'd better check these)
> 
> RS-232 signals are different:
>   Asserted output     -15V to  -5V
>   Asserted input      -25V to  -3V
>   Undefined            -3V to  +3V
>   Non-asserted output  +5V to +15V
>   Non-asserted input   +3V to +25V
> (again from memory)
> 
> Pumping a RS-232 signal into a LVTTL chip isn't going to be pretty.
> And just using the output is going to be problematic too, the load
> will cause current to rise beyond the spec of the output device.
My fault, not talking the right lingo - but I new I was on the right list

> 
> So you need a LVTTL/RS-232 buffer. There's plenty of chips, designs
> kits and even pre-built PCBs around. I'd have a quick hunt through
> the online shops selling PICs, since 3.3V-level RS-232-protocol is
> a common way of programming those.
This is what I gathered from the openwrt web site, they also mentioned that you 
could buy the prebuilt ones, or use some old mobile phone data cables.

> 
> Plan B would be the buy the part you actually wanted, a USB to
> LVTTL-level RS232-protocol converter. Again, see the PIC suppliers
> like Dontronics. Note that these often don't work with Linux.
> I had to make one myself by buying a Linux-supported USB-RS232
> dongle and ripping off its LVTTL/RS-232 buffer -- given where
> you are at I wouldn't recommend that approach.
> 
> Plan C is to order a MAX3232 and make that router talk real
> RS-232. Our own Rod has done that [1] for the WRT-54G.
> 
a friend has offered to build one



> [1]  http://www.rwhitby.net/projects/wrt54gs/
> 
> 

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