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http://www.getup.org.au/campaign/SaveTheNet&id=892 ddave On Thu, 2009-12-17 at 12:00 +1100, [email protected] wrote: > Send slug mailing list submissions to > [email protected] > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > [email protected] > > You can reach the person managing the list at > [email protected] > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of slug digest..." > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Australian government to censor your internets (Mike) > 2. Re: Australian government to censor your internets (CaT) > 3. Re: Google Chrome for Linux !!! (Terry Dawson) > 4. Re: Australian government to censor your internets > (Scott Finneran) > email message attachment > > -------- Forwarded Message -------- > > From: Mike <[email protected]> > > To: [email protected] <[email protected]> > > Cc: [email protected] <[email protected]> > > Subject: Re: [SLUG] Australian government to censor your internets > > Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2009 09:02:52 +1100 > > > > The no clean feed group have a template for a letter on their site I > > think, I'll try to dig it up later. > > > > I think this is very relevant to us as linux/open source/free software > > users, if we follow the philosophy "free as in freedom, not fee as in > > beer" then that should go not only for the os and programs we use but > > for the Internet and our access to data. > > > > I got an email from the president of the PPA with some ideas and advice: > > > > Hi crew, > > > > Pirate Party Australia has been working hard on getting press releases > > out and establishing media contacts to spread our message. We are > > establishing some working groups to plan a fresh round of national > > protests, and we are working on an overhaul of our IT systems. We are > > looking at sending members to LAN parties to communicate with the > > players, and sticking flyers up in city centres, where legally feasible. > > > > So far, we have not touched a cent of the membership fees or > > donations, and some members are using their own funds on essential > > services, because we know that every dollar counts. > > > > To those of you who have joined us already, thank you for your > > support. I know we haven't gotten back to most of you with > > confirmations, but we do plan to once we have started collating the > > memberships. > > > > To everyone else, I would like to tell you some hard truths that you > > might not like to hear. > > > > To fix the world, you have to do more than click some buttons on a > > website.We appreciate that you did sign up as a preliminary member, > > but sometimes you have to roll up your sleeves and get a little dirty. > > In this case, all we are asking you to do is to go through the process > > of actually printing a document and faxing it. I know it's an old- > > world effort, but it's really just a few minutes of effort. > > > > For those of you who have not joined because of the money, send me an > > email [email protected] and we'll see if we can work > > something out. I grew up dirt poor, so I know what it is like to > > really not have a few dollars to spare. > > > > For those of you who have not joined due to other issues, just look at > > yesterday's release of Senator Conroy's Internet censorship report. We > > don't have time to waste. So far, around 140 people, or about 1 in 10 > > of the preliminary members have signed up. This is not good enough to > > affect serious change in Australia. We are trying to protect freedom > > of speech, but it looks like many of you don't have much to say. You > > need to get angry, and you need to join, and you need to convince > > other people to join. You need to do this by painting them a picture > > of what the world will be like if we don't put up a fight against the > > slide into tyranny that we are now facing. Ask the historians to > > imagine what Stalinist Russia would have been like if Stalin had the > > computing power of today. Tell them about how fragile democracy is and > > how it can be corrupted by just a few influential people over just a > > couple of decades. Let the environmentalists know that freedom needs > > to be protected, because without freedom, we don't have a world worth > > saving. Tell the libertarians that we are trying to keep the > > government out of their lives. Inform the concerned parents that we > > are fighting for their rights to run their own families. If you're in > > the country, speak to some farmers and tell them that we will stop > > companies from patenting their seeds. Tell the sick that we'll stop > > the drug companies from revelling in their pain. Tell the musicians > > that we will work with them to ensure they can earn good money doing > > what they love. Tell the trade unionists that we will work to repeal > > laws that infringe on their freedom of assembly. Let the gamers know > > that we'll rip out Michael Atkinson's spinal column if he doesn't > > realise that violent video games don't cause violent behaviour. > > > > OK, maybe not the last one. In fact, I'm not even sure if my freedom > > of speech rights protect that statement now-a-days, so let me > > explicitly state that it was a joke that referenced Scorpion's > > finishing move in Mortal Kombat. > > > > I hope my point is clear. We need you to join Pirate Party Australia, > > so we can protect our freedom to make the world a better place. You > > signed up as a preliminary member, so you already agree with our > > goals, so please make it official. > > > > > > Regards, > > > > David Crafti, > > President > > Pirate Party Australia > > > > P.S.: Some people have stated a concern about being on the books as > > affiliated with the party, but the AEC treats the applications as > > confidential. > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > > > > Contact with the Pirate Party Australia > > > > There is an email discussion list that you can participate in here. > > You can also participate on our forums or join in the discussion in IRC. > > All other enquiries go [email protected] > > > > > > On 17/12/2009, at 7:13, Marghanita da Cruz <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > > > > meryl wrote: > > >> In addition to getting involved in the EFA's campaign > > >> http://nocleanfeed.com > > >> you can subscribe to their lists to stay informed (there are familiar > > >> SLUG names there too!) http://www.efa.org.au/about/lists/ > > >> http://libertus.net/ and http://sites.google.com/site/filtermenot/ > > >> home > > >> have additional information about the filter on their sites > > >> Also there's the PPA http://www.pirateparty.org.au/ > > >> who plan to fight the filter at the next election > > > <snip> > > > > > > Google has also blogged on the subject: > > > <http://google-au.blogspot.com/2009/12/our-views-on-mandatory-isp-filtering.html > > > > > > > > > > > > > While there is lots of moral outrage on > > > the subject, I like the way Google has > > > explained how it is not in their interests. > > > > > > I think this is a better approach than > > > the "independent" from the world approach. > > > > > > jam wrote: > > >> I wrote to Conroy talking about proxies and ssh tunnels and received > > >> back many > > >> pages reminiscent of 'Shirley Valentine' 'Hello wall ...' > > >> > > >> Then, older and wiser, I realized *doing something* and being seen > > >> *to do > > >> something* are vastly different and after all it's *your* $100 > > >> million ... > > > > > > and on the 100% accurate filters, see: > > > <http://mailman.anu.edu.au/pipermail/link/2009-December/085954.html> > > > > > > It would be useful if we could articulate > > > our concerns about the impacts on us, as > > > users of linux, open source, system > > > administrator, etc. > > > > > > If we can get a single issue that is > > > comprehensible by the wider public > > > then that could clinch it. > > > > > > Marghanita > > > -- > > > Marghanita da Cruz > > > http://ramin.com.au > > > Tel: 0414-869202 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ > > > Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html > > > email message attachment > > -------- Forwarded Message -------- > > From: CaT <[email protected]> > > To: Mike <[email protected]> > > Cc: [email protected] <[email protected]> > > Subject: Re: [SLUG] Australian government to censor your internets > > Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2009 09:05:42 +1100 > > > > On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 09:02:52AM +1100, Mike wrote: > > > The no clean feed group have a template for a letter on their site I > > > think, I'll try to dig it up later. > > > > http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/12/16/dont-waste-your-time-waste-theirs-a-guide-to-writing-to-ministers/ > > > > May (or may not) be of use. > > > email message attachment > > -------- Forwarded Message -------- > > From: Terry Dawson <[email protected]> > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: Re: [SLUG] Google Chrome for Linux !!! > > Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2009 09:29:13 +1100 > > > > Erik de Castro Lopo wrote: > > > > > Well maybe it should have defaulted to a more restrictive scheme > > > rather than a less restrictive scheme. > > > > I agree with that. The default should have been to move to next most > > restrictive option in each case. > > > > Terry > > > > > email message attachment > > -------- Forwarded Message -------- > > From: Scott Finneran <[email protected]> > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: Re: [SLUG] Australian government to censor your internets > > Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2009 09:35:13 +1100 > > > > jam wrote: > > >> I'm not sure if this belongs here, sorry if it doesn't. > > > > > >> Well looks like the government got it's way. Our Internet will be > > >> censored next year. > > > > > >> http://www.minister.dbcde.gov.au/media/media_releases/2009/115 > > > > > > I wrote to Conroy talking about proxies and ssh tunnels and received back > > > many > > > pages reminiscent of 'Shirley Valentine' 'Hello wall ...' > > > > > > Then, older and wiser, I realized *doing something* and being seen *to do > > > something* are vastly different and after all it's *your* $100 million ... > > > > > > Doing something like this may have more of an impact: > > http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/12/16/dont-waste-your-time-waste-theirs-a-guide-to-writing-to-ministers/ > > > > Scott > > > > > -- > SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ > Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
