On 24/06/2011, at 8:58 AM, [email protected] wrote:

> Where to start??
> 
> I have to agree with Erik De here (thanks for clarifying the real ground on 
> which the argument stands, Erik.) and will extend the argument too.
> 
> This article reminds me that there are 'Alan Jones' types all around the 
> world and in all kinds of media and it generally cheapens the field.
> 
> They take something, extract a small part and then blow it out of proportion, 
> decontexualise it, hide the history and political elements to their claims 
> and all along position themselves as the voice of reason and balance. Jones 
> is a classic example of this type of "journalism" and this article appears to 
> be a classic example of that type of "journalism" as well.
> 
> For a great many people, GNU/Linux is an expression of a particular form of 
> ethics. If you fail to generally accept those ethics then it's no surprise 
> that swapping backwards and forwards between OSs would be seen as a 
> reasonable thing to do.
> 
> I can't say that I adhere to the same level of commitment that RMS has, but I 
> at least aim in the same direction.
> 
> To summarise my machine - it all works brilliantly well for multi-media 
> editing (of a not particularly simple level) and I can hunt around for the 
> best hardware at the best prices.
> 
> It would appear to me that if you GNU/Linux fits your ethical position on the 
> world then OSs which do not meet the same ethical standards would not be 
> something you would consider for the great majority (if any) of your needs.
> 
> As someone who considers the general GNU/Linux ethical argument (as espoused 
> by RMS) I'm not in a position to merely swap when the whim takes me as it 
> would mean going counter to an ethical position I accept as being a part of 
> my own.
> 
> Speaking personally, I'd rather contribute to an OS which has a 
> community-orientation (not which has a *community* which is kept like serfs), 
> which is made available to the world as freely as possible and which attempts 
> to maintain my freedom of choice, access, use and ownership.

Patrick
I agree but I wonder if the ethical argument does not transend reality ...
To what extent do most users *know* that they are using linux? /proc /sys 
/dev/shm lmsensors come to mind, the rest is GNU or GPL.
I've had people - say my mother in law - using a desktop machine, here, 
completely oblivious to linux powering their way.

I bought an iMac to run linux, linux ran terribly on it! I am now running OSX 
with my normal compliment of GNU/GPL apps and my desktop looks very similar to 
the dozen linux-only machines.

EG years of frustration with evolution and kmail are quelled by this mailer, 
whose single vice is the bluddy-picture (I think it is gone now). I'm too old 
to stand in the rain with a placard, I just want it to work (tm), Not that I 
can't or don't admire those who do stand in the rain

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