Now here's a strange one the drive is now back in it's usb case.

[jeff@nas ~]$ dd if=/dev/zero of=/mnt/sdd/bonnie++/test.tmp bs=4k
count=2000000 && sync
2000000+0 records in
2000000+0 records out
8192000000 bytes (8.2 GB) copied, 248.397 s, 33.0 MB/s

It's now 8x faster.  As fast as any of the usb disks...

I'm confused.

There isn't some code in the firmware now days that knows when you've
removed a disk from a USB case?

On 21 March 2014 14:55, Jeff Allison <[email protected]> wrote:
> Yeah you're probably right but I have 2 greens so....
>
> On 21 March 2014 14:46, Kevin Shackleton <[email protected]> wrote:
>> We're told these days that we should be using NAS rated drives like the WD
>> Red.  Cheers,  Kevin
>>
>> On 21/03/2014 8:41 AM, "Jeff Allison" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>> opps forgot the list
>>>
>>> Definatly the disk...
>>>
>>> [jeff@nas ~]$dd if=/dev/zero of=/mnt/sdj/bonnie/test.tmp bs=4k
>>> count=2000000 && sync && dd if=/dev/zero of=/mnt/sdd/bonnie/test.tmp
>>> bs=4k count=2000000 && sync
>>>
>>> 2000000+0 records in
>>> 2000000+0 records outDefinatly the disk...
>>>
>>> [jeff@nas ~]$dd if=/dev/zero of=/mnt/sdj/bonnie/test.tmp bs=4k
>>> count=2000000 && sync && dd if=/dev/zero of=/mnt/sdd/bonnie/test.tmp
>>> bs=4k count=2000000 && sync
>>>
>>> 2000000+0 records in
>>> 2000000+0 records out
>>> 8192000000 bytes (8.2 GB) copied, 231.778 s, 35.3 MB/s <-- WD Green
>>> RMA I got back yesterday.
>>>
>>> 2000000+0 records in
>>> 2000000+0 records out
>>> 8192000000 bytes (8.2 GB) copied, 1818.18 s, 4.5 MB/s <-- Dud one.
>>> 8192000000 bytes (8.2 GB) copied, 231.778 s, 35.3 MB/s <-- WD Green
>>> RMA I got back yesterday.
>>>
>>> 2000000+0 records in
>>> 2000000+0 records out
>>> 8192000000 bytes (8.2 GB) copied, 1818.18 s, 4.5 MB/s <-- Dud one.
>>>
>>> On 21 March 2014 11:40, Jeff Allison <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> > Definatly the disk...
>>> >
>>> > [jeff@nas ~]$dd if=/dev/zero of=/mnt/sdj/bonnie/test.tmp bs=4k
>>> > count=2000000 && sync && dd if=/dev/zero of=/mnt/sdd/bonnie/test.tmp
>>> > bs=4k count=2000000 && sync
>>> >
>>> > 2000000+0 records in
>>> > 2000000+0 records out
>>> > 8192000000 bytes (8.2 GB) copied, 231.778 s, 35.3 MB/s <-- WD Green
>>> > RMA I got back yesterday.
>>> >
>>> > 2000000+0 records in
>>> > 2000000+0 records out
>>> > 8192000000 bytes (8.2 GB) copied, 1818.18 s, 4.5 MB/s <-- Dud one.
>>> >
>>> > On 20 March 2014 13:15, Jeff Allison <[email protected]>
>>> > wrote:
>>> >> I'm watching the format running and the write speed still seems limited
>>> >> to 4MB/s
>>> >>
>>> >> I'll run some tests when it finally gets formatted.
>>> >>
>>> >> Perhaps a dud disk?
>>> >>
>>> >> On 20 March 2014 11:42, Jeff Allison <[email protected]>
>>> >> wrote:
>>> >>> Yeah started to do that last night got sidetracked...
>>> >>>
>>> >>> On 20 March 2014 11:42, Jake Anderson <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> >>>> It is slower than I'd think it should be, but like I said, you should
>>> >>>> ask on
>>> >>>> a mdadm list for advice from people who will really know.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> On 20/03/14 11:25, Jeff Allison wrote:
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> So is 4MB/s acceptable? for 4x2TB raid 5 resync?
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> On 20 March 2014 10:59, Jake Anderson <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>> I'll wager its mostly due to not needing to resize and re-parity
>>> >>>>>> one
>>> >>>>>> drive.
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>> On 20/03/14 10:58, Jeff Allison wrote:
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>> I failed the suspect disk out of the array and now the rebuild is
>>> >>>>>>> 16000K/sec 4x faster.
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>> Strange.
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>> Time to do some disk testing...
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>> On 19 March 2014 14:59, Jeff Allison
>>> >>>>>>> <[email protected]>
>>> >>>>>>> wrote:
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>> I ran hdparm...
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>> [root@nas ~]# hdparm -tT /dev/sdd <-- dud disk
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>> /dev/sdd:
>>> >>>>>>>>    Timing cached reads:   2318 MB in  2.00 seconds = 1158.86
>>> >>>>>>>> MB/sec
>>> >>>>>>>>    Timing buffered disk reads:   2 MB in 25.35 seconds =  80.79
>>> >>>>>>>> kB/sec
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>> [root@nas ~]# hdparm -tT /dev/sdc <-- good disk
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>> /dev/sdc:
>>> >>>>>>>>    Timing cached reads:   2470 MB in  2.00 seconds = 1234.85
>>> >>>>>>>> MB/sec
>>> >>>>>>>>    Timing buffered disk reads: 296 MB in  3.01 seconds =  98.35
>>> >>>>>>>> MB/sec
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>> Not much in it.
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>> On 19 March 2014 14:23, Jeff Allison
>>> >>>>>>>> <[email protected]>
>>> >>>>>>>> wrote:
>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>> The disk sector sizes are the same on all the disks.
>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>> Logical  Sector size:                   512 bytes
>>> >>>>>>>>> Physical Sector size:                  4096 bytes
>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>> Is chunk size stripe size?
>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>> [root@nas ~]# mdadm --detail /dev/md0
>>> >>>>>>>>> /dev/md0:
>>> >>>>>>>>>           Version : 1.2
>>> >>>>>>>>>     Creation Time : Fri Feb 21 09:33:55 2014
>>> >>>>>>>>>        Raid Level : raid5
>>> >>>>>>>>>        Array Size : 3905985536 (3725.04 GiB 3999.73 GB)
>>> >>>>>>>>>     Used Dev Size : 1952992768 (1862.52 GiB 1999.86 GB)
>>> >>>>>>>>>      Raid Devices : 4
>>> >>>>>>>>>     Total Devices : 4
>>> >>>>>>>>>       Persistence : Superblock is persistent
>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>       Update Time : Wed Mar 19 14:22:35 2014
>>> >>>>>>>>>             State : clean, reshaping
>>> >>>>>>>>>    Active Devices : 4
>>> >>>>>>>>> Working Devices : 4
>>> >>>>>>>>>    Failed Devices : 0
>>> >>>>>>>>>     Spare Devices : 0
>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>            Layout : left-symmetric
>>> >>>>>>>>>        Chunk Size : 512K
>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>    Reshape Status : 28% complete
>>> >>>>>>>>>     Delta Devices : 1, (3->4)
>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>              Name : nas.allygray.2y.net:0  (local to host
>>> >>>>>>>>> nas.allygray.2y.net)
>>> >>>>>>>>>              UUID : 1a122cbe:ada65085:680e451c:180c7689
>>> >>>>>>>>>            Events : 21723
>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>       Number   Major   Minor   RaidDevice State
>>> >>>>>>>>>          0       8       17        0      active sync
>>> >>>>>>>>> /dev/sdb1
>>> >>>>>>>>>          1       8       33        1      active sync
>>> >>>>>>>>> /dev/sdc1
>>> >>>>>>>>>          3       8        1        2      active sync
>>> >>>>>>>>> /dev/sda1
>>> >>>>>>>>>          4       8       49        3      active sync
>>> >>>>>>>>> /dev/sdd1
>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>> When I created the partitions I used the -a optimal which I
>>> >>>>>>>>> thought
>>> >>>>>>>>> sorted that?
>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>> On 19 March 2014 14:11, Jake Anderson <[email protected]>
>>> >>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>> its probably *madly* seeking which is why its so slow.
>>> >>>>>>>>>> I wonder, what is the block size you are using on the disk and
>>> >>>>>>>>>> the
>>> >>>>>>>>>> stripe
>>> >>>>>>>>>> size of your array?
>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>> If you are read modify writing a 4K disk in 512k blocks it'll
>>> >>>>>>>>>> be dog
>>> >>>>>>>>>> slow.
>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>> On 19/03/14 14:00, Jeff Allison wrote:
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> The thing I find strange is that in iostat the disk shows as
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> 100% at
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> 3/4
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> MB/s.
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I wonder how iostat decides on the percent?
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On 19 March 2014 10:53, Jake Anderson <[email protected]>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> This isn't going to be an issue with sata vs whatever (though
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I do
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> suggest
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> running in ahci mode if thats an option)
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> The issue is probably going to be how mdadm is growing the
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> array,
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> it
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> will
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> need to do a buttload of disk access to do that reading and
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> writing
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> every
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> sector on every disk and trying to keep everything in a
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> consistent
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> state
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> while doing so.
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I don't know if it applies to whatever raid level you are
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> using but
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> is
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> there
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> something like an --assume-clean option you can pass it?
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I'd also suggest asking in the mdadm list or perhaps IRC.
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/archive/1056831 might be of
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> interest.
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On 18/03/14 20:02, Rachel Polanskis wrote:
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 18 Mar 2014, at 6:46 pm, Jeff Allison
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> That's installed unfortunately didn't fix my problem. How
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> badly
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> configured
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> does a disk need to be to only run at 4mb
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Sorry for the suck eggs question, but you did enable all the
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> features in
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> the BIOS e.g. turning on SATA II 3gbps support,
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> write cache disable etc?   In the URL link to the forum
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> below they
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> discuss
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> all the optimum settings.  I am using
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> WD RED NAS drives (2x2tb) and Seagate 3Tb drives (latest
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> model) in
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> my
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> system so similar to yours....
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> rachel
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 18/03/2014 3:43 PM, "Rachel Polanskis"
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 18 Mar 2014, at 3:14 pm, Jeff Allison
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Is it the O41072911.ROM?
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Did you use flashrom of the dos disk thingo.
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 18 March 2014 14:06, gr0ve <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Seriously, you should flash the BIOS!  I get 80mbps reads
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> on ZFS
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> and depending, 30-40mbps on writes.  Without the BIOS mod,
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> you
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> are getting only IDE speeds there.  The original BIOS holds
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> this
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> machine
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> back and it is perfectly safe.  The BIOS ensures AHCI
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> support is
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> operational
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> as well as the 3gbps SATA II bus. Once you see the
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> improvement,
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> you
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> can choose to also select write cache enabled|disabled
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> although
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> this is best with a UPS ;)
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> rachel
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> The HP BIOS version is the O41072911.ROM as you suggest.
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> You need this to install the "theBay" ROM as well.
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> The process is shown online, but in short you copy the HP
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> BIOS
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> using
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> DOS/windows installer to a USB stick then copy the "theBay"
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> rom
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> image
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> over
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> top. You could try to "dd" the image but it does some weird
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> trickery
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> make
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> the stick bootable for installing the BIOS.
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> You can look for TheBay_Microserver_Bios_041.rar online.
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> The source information is:
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.avforums.com/threads/hp-n36l-n40l-n54l-microserver-updated-ahci-bios-support.1521657/
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> And it has all the guff on getting the BIOS onto your N54L
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> also
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> tips
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> on how to configure it.
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I have all the files if you need them....
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Once again, these are terrific little servers.  It has an
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> internal
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> USB
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> port so I just loaded FreeNAS
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> onto an 8Gb USB stick and boot from there.  All the internal
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> SATA
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> disks
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> are in ZFS disk pools which
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> do my bidding. As I use ZFS, I went with 8gb ECC memory. I
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> also
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> added an
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> additional Gigabit Ethernet adaptor as the built in broadcom
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> is
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> general
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> networking and I run the second Gig-E port with Jumbo Frames
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> using
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> gigabit
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> crossover (there is such a thing)
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> to a Mac Mini with the thunderbolt port running Gig-E and
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> doing
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> iSCSI!
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> The Mac Mini runs esxi 5.5 and
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> all the data stores (running various species of Linux)
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> hosted off
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> HP-N54L.  It is like a little tiny
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> SAN, small but perfectly formed....
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> rachel
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Rachel Polanskis                 Kingswood, Greater Western
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Sydney,
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Australia
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]             IT consulting, security,
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> programming
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>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> carries.
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Rachel Polanskis                 Kingswood, Greater Western
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Sydney,
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Australia
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]             IT consulting, security,
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> programming
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>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> carries.
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
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