I understand Navini's products work in the licensed and unlicensed 2.4Ghz band. But the CPE is $400.00 each, if you want a battery pack for the CPE that is another $100.00 extra.
I don't think I can convince enough customers to pay that much for CPE to buy the base station at vber $60,000.00 each. Like I said in the past, low cost CPE is the only way to compete with ADSL and cable. Oliver On Mon, 2 Jun 2003, Scott Wells wrote: > RE: [smartBridges] bandstearing?Bruce is the marketing director. Othal > Brand Jr. is in charge of it all. Yes it is Navini and yes it is licensed. > That is why it is so expensive but man it works! I could download at T1 > speeds no problem almost 6 miles away in my apartment. Navini really worked > hard on it but beat out many competitors. I really hope they continue to do > well so that we can show the Bells the power of wireless. > > -Scott > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Joe Laura > Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2003 10:56 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [smartBridges] bandstearing? > > > Scott, If I am not mistaken wasn't that Navini 2.7 that Bruce used over > there? Licensed frequency I believe. I am told it works great as well. I > wish I had the money to deploy it. > Superior Wireless > New Orleans,La. > www.superior1.com > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Scott Wells > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2003 9:03 PM > Subject: RE: [smartBridges] bandstearing? > > > I worked on a system in McAllen, Texas. Check out > www.rioplexwireless.com NLOS worked like a charm up to 8km. > Expensive............ > > -Scott > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of phantam > Sent: Saturday, May 31, 2003 11:00 AM > To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' > Subject: RE: [smartBridges] bandstearing? > > > It's the same stuff as nextnet well not exact same they came to show > us a presentation *600$ per cpe and 50g's per sectorial ap* to cover our > 27square mile island they told us to give full coverage we needed 10 > repeaters and we would have bulletproof wireless NLOS access, there units > just sit in the house plugged into Ethernet and your on no more mounting of > antennas or anything just give the client the cpe and its off plus it had > options for virtual isp's and shit like that but I didn't really need all > that cause our islands too small as it is. It's a wonderful idea and then we > figured out WHY it was so great at NLOS, they had some interesting > technology to get beyond multipath problems on 5.8 (they were doing it for > 2.4 also if we wanted I but we had to secure 3 PRIVATE 2.4 channels that we > could lock down for our own use.. HAHA ye sure) but as I was saying it's a 2 > WATT amp in the CPE and a 2 WATT amp on each AP... umm guys if we put 2 watt > amps on our smartbridges with a 5db omni and a 20db sectorial with 2 watts > of power.. wouldn't that basically cover the NLOS concept LOL. Just my 2 > cents, but the beam stearing does seem interesting no where near as > expensive as the nextnet stuff as for vivato there awesome units in theory I > guess would love to have a few to test out, where are they selling them > haven't seem any distro's with them, and the beamsteer company I wonder how > there gonna license there circuitry. > > Chris > > -----Original Message----- > From: Joe Laura [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Saturday, May 31, 2003 7:54 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Can they really claim this is NLOS? Under what circumstances? I tried > it in > new orleans and had problems 1 block away. They said it might have > been the > construction of the buildings. I have seen smartbridges penetrate a > wall or > two under ideal conditions. I still wouldnt consider that NLOS though. > Superior Wireless > New Orleans,La. > www.superior1.com > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Oliver Shaw" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Saturday, May 31, 2003 1:55 AM > Subject: Re: [smartBridges] bandstearing? > > > > > > > Yes, vivato does steer the beam as well. They call it packet steer > because > > they steer every packet toward the target CPE. In other words, the > switch > > follow the exact location of each client and beam the signal only > toward > > that client in a narrow 7% beamwidth. This makes the signal strong > and cut > > down wasted rf energy. There is a second antenna just "listen" to > the CPE > > and receive packets from that direction. There is one more antenna > > programmed to keep track of the locations of each client, the > coordinates > > of each client is then send to the "transmit" and "receive" antennas > to > > maximize range. > > > > The switch can be mounted outdoor and beam all the signals to > customers > > inside buildings. All the customers need is a standard wireless card > in > > their PCs. The list price I last heard is $9,000.00 for the indoor > version > > and about $14,000.00 for the outdoor verson. > > > > The only way WISPs can bring wireless access to the masses is > eliminate > > the need for externally mounted outdoor antenna on the customer side > and > > the customer can use off the shelf wireless cards (about $50.00). > Lets be > > honest, do you really expect the most customers pay hundreds os > dollars to > > buy special CPEs and outdoor antennas? These stuff will work in > small > > scale in rural regions where adsl and cable internet service is not > > available. > > > > I love SB equipment and I wish SB can focus on research and > manufacture > > NLOS wireless products. There is a huge market waiting for these. A > good > > place for SB to start is WIMAX compliance products. > > > > > > Oliver > > > > > > On Fri, 30 May 2003, Marlon Schafer (509-982-2181) wrote: > > > > > Vivato does NOT beam steer!!!!! > > > > > > They packet steer. Big huge difference. > > > > > > marlon > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Oliver Shaw" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Sent: Friday, May 30, 2003 6:21 PM > > > Subject: Re: [smartBridges] bandstearing? > > > > > > > > > > Hi Chris, > > > > > > > > Beam steering is just one of technique used by some to focus the > signal in > > > > certain specific way to improve range. These wifi switch act as > the > normal > > > > base station or access point as we know of. On the customer end > they > still > > > > use the standard wifi (802.11b) cards. > > > > > > > > The other company using similar antenna technique is vivato.net. > The > > > > advantage these switches is the extended range of coverage. They > can > cover > > > > 2 to 3 miles NLOS. > > > > > > > > Oliver > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, 30 May 2003, phantam wrote: > > > > > > > > > :: Posted in wrong msg reply :: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Is beam stearing still 802.11? It is right? Just heard that > bandspeed is > > > > > gonna be licensing there bandstearing chips out sounds > intriguing. > While > > > im > > > > > on the subject are there any wifi switches that aren't bound > to 1 > access > > > > > point? 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