I use to do 8 computers on dialup speed. Got about 33.6-38k
connections most of the time. It worked. However try to do telnet when
someone loaded a big webpage, retrieved their mail or downloading
something was just to forget about. It however worked.
I set my kids upload speed to 6400bps that way they can do pretty much
what they want on their computers and well if things goes slow it's
only for them. That way if they install kazaa then our connection
don't get toasted but their own upload speeds goes to drats so all
they need to do is close kazaa and their IM works fine and sending
e-mails works fine and the speed is enough to play any online game for
them.

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at> hi tom
at> thnx for ur answer. actually the 16kbps/16kbps is on ISDN {vsat}. i had a client 
on this speed he wz using around 10pcs but i did not allocate any bandwidth to him.
at> now i used a mikrotik router with bandwidth mgt i assembled myself and set his 
bandwidth to 16kbps/16kbps and his speed slows down considerably. we are both arguing 
the actual number of systems
at> he should hv.
 
at> chizoba

at> Tom Haynes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
at> Three stricke and your out! :-P
at> Really though, it seems the group does not know how to answer that guestion. 
besides that, you are asking it the wrong way I believe. Do you really mean 16kbps, 
almost 1/4th dialup speeds? Or, do
at> you mean 16KB/s which is closer to 128kbps (ISDN speeds) in which case you are 
asking for a Throughput analisys which is tricky at best.
at> So if we assume 128kbps backbone and we assume you want these computers to browse 
at least as fast as dial up if not better then assuming that large network theory 
applys and the average user
at> uses the full resources 1/10th of the time in peak usage hours and 1/50th of the 
time in off peak hours we could assume that you could have 20 and max 100. Now these 
numbers work for T1 and
at> larger but I don't think they scale well to ISDN speeds.
 
at> As you can see, we don't have enough information to answer this well and even with 
more information, the numbers of users you can cram on a network segment has started 
more Holy Wars between IT
at> and the bean counters that the English did with the Turks in the Medival times! It 
is all personal preference, your feelings on what 'Acceptable QoS' means and how 
talented you are at tweeking
at> the network and clients to get the best preformance.
 
at> Here is the completely honest, absolutely, 100% correct and infalable , "GIGO" 
answer .......... '10'
at> My opinion ........ '2'
at> Average opinion......... '0 Agh, who wants to pay wireless prices for ISDN speeds. 
I almost can even bring myself to type the letters. They just FEEL slow.'
 
at> Good luck
 

at> Tom Haynes
at> HopeWireless Network
at> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
at> http://www.tomhaynes.net 

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at> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of acet technologies
at> Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2003 8:32 AM
at> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
at> Subject: Re: [smartBridges] how many systems can ...3rd time of asking


at> hi,
at> really what is the actual bandwidth a pc requires to be on the net. precisely, how 
many systems can browse with 16kbps/16kbps link.
 
at> chizzy



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