Do the Airbridge units now allow PPPoE through?

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Kevin Summers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 6:04 PM
Subject: RE: [smartBridges] Bandwidth hogs


>
> We haven't had any problems with it and PPPoE.
>
> The HotSpot clients are logged on via web based login that
> automatically sets up firewall rules to let them onto the
> internet.
>
> For residential clients that have just one computer we typically
> set them up with PPTP since it's built in to Windows 98 and above.
>
> For clients with more than one computer, or business customers, we
> set them up with a Linksys Cable/DSL router and have it log in using
> PPPoE.
>
> Kevin Summers
> KISTech Internet Services Inc.
> www.kistech.com
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Dennis Burgess
> > Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 4:48 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: [smartBridges] Bandwidth hogs
> >
> >
> > Sounds like it is very powerful.  And cost effective.  How does the
PPPoE
> > work with it and clients?  What would be the setup that you would do.. ?
> >
> > Dennis
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Kevin Summers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 6:16 PM
> > Subject: RE: [smartBridges] Bandwidth hogs
> >
> >
> > >
> > > It doesn't actually do RADIUS itself, it acts as a RADIUS Client
> > > and can authenticate user accounts on your RADIUS server.
> > >
> > > The MikroTik software can basically do anything you want to do
> > > with routing. It does Source and Destination NAT, it allows you
> > > to mark packets so they can be run through specific firewall
> > > filters. It does PPPoE, PPTP, L2TP, VLAN, Queuing, bandwidth
> > > limiting by profile, HotSpot, and many more.
> > >
> > > What can I say, I love this software.
> > >
> > > I have it set up on our network between the internet and the
> > > wireless network. It authenticates the PPPoE and PPTP customers
> > > through the internal user list, it authenticates HotSpot users
> > > through our RADIUS server, it does NAT for most of the users,
> > > and routes static IPs for the business customers.
> > >
> > > Need it to do more? Add another $10 network card and you've got
> > > another port to work with.
> > >
> > > Kevin Summers
> > > KISTech Internet Services Inc.
> > > www.kistech.com
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Dennis Burgess
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 3:18 PM
> > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Subject: Re: [smartBridges] Bandwidth hogs
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > After reading up on MikroTik, it looks pritty simple, and the
> > costs are
> > > > cheap.
> > > >
> > > > The quesiton to you is, you can use this as a Radius server,
> > PPPOE, and
> > do
> > > > your bandwidth management, plus a web proxy all in one box.  I have
to
> > > > admit, the 64meg IDE flash unit is pritty kewl, just wish they
> > > > made a 40 gig
> > > > version that was as cheap :) hehehe
> > > >
> > > > If thats the case, what I am looking for is a backbone router, to
> > seperate
> > > > my wireless customers, do bandwidth managment, web proxy
> > > > (transparent), and
> > > > radius.  Does this do NAT only?  I am waiting to actually
> > route a Class
> > C
> > > > over my wireless network.
> > > >
> > > > Let me know.
> > > >
> > > > Dennis
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Mike Kelleher" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 4:23 PM
> > > > Subject: RE: [smartBridges] Bandwidth hogs
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > I have the mikrotik software.  Someday I will get around to
figuring
> > it
> > > > out.
> > > > >
> > > > > Mike
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Kevin Summers
> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 4:09 PM
> > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > Subject: RE: [smartBridges] Bandwidth hogs
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > We use MikroTik, which in version 2.7 allows you to set a
> > > > > profile for specific types of customers and then assign each
> > > > > client to their appropriate profile. It has queues too, but
> > > > > as you said they work on a group basis. The profiles in MikroTik
> > > > > are an awesome feature. It also has a default profile that you
> > > > > can set to whatever suits your needs, so if you have clients
> > > > > authenticating on the wireless through RADIUS they can be assigned
> > > > > to the default profile. We use that for our HotSpot service.
> > > > >
> > > > > Kevin Summers
> > > > > KISTech Internet Services Inc.
> > > > > www.kistech.com
> > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Dennis
Burgess
> > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 11:30 AM
> > > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > > Subject: Re: [smartBridges] Bandwidth hogs
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The only question I have on the BriLan software they answered
for
> > me.
> > > > > > Currently, you HAVE to put the users in a QUEUE.  Each
> > queue you can
> > > > limit
> > > > > > bandwidth, however, you have to create a queue for each user.
> > > > > > Otherwise, if
> > > > > > you say, they get 256, and you put 10 people in that queue.
They
> > are
> > > > all
> > > > > > sharing 256.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The next version of BriLan due out in January is going to have
> > > > > > per MAC or IP
> > > > > > bandwidth restrictions, plus more than 128 queues.   I called
> > > > > > them and they
> > > > > > told me 250 bucks for the bandwidth management software :)
> > > > Inexpensive
> > > > > > solution for up to 128 users :)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Dennis
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > From: "Eric Calkins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > > Sent: Monday, July 07, 2003 3:06 PM
> > > > > > Subject: Re: [smartBridges] Bandwidth hogs
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > I cant wait! :)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Will we be able to throttle P2P crap tooooo? :)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Eric
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > tonylist wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Eric
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > This system is designed as an AP with bandwidth management
> > > > > > 128 is really
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > sweet spot for this code. The new version will not have a
> > > > limit like
> > > > > > this,
> > > > > > > > plus a BUNCH of new feature :)
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Sincerely,  Tony Morella
> > > > > > > > Demarc Technology Group, A Wireless Solution Provider
> > > > > > > > Office: 908-996-7995 Cell: 908-246-9170 Fax: 908-847-0202
> > > > > > > > http://www.demarctech.com
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >>-----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > >>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > > > >>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eric
> > Calkins
> > > > > > > >>Sent: Monday, July 07, 2003 3:25 PM
> > > > > > > >>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > > > >>Subject: Re: [smartBridges] Bandwidth hogs
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >>My guess is if you have multiple clients in the same
> > > > queue they will
> > > > > > > >>share that queue.  sucky.  yeah this version only has 128
> > queues,
> > > > the
> > > > > > > >>upgrade will support 256?  Tony can confirm.
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >>Eric
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >>Patrick wrote:
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >>>When the specs say 128 queues, does that mean I can only
use
> > this
> > > > > > > >>>software to limit up to 128 customers?  Since I was under
the
> > > > > > > >>>impression that you have to put each customer in it's
> > > > own queue if
> > > > > > > >>>they are to have the full use of the bandwidth assigned to
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >>that queue.
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >>>----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > > >>>From: "Eric Calkins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > > > >>>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > > > >>>Sent: Monday, July 07, 2003 2:54 PM
> > > > > > > >>>Subject: Re: [smartBridges] Bandwidth hogs
> > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > >>>>I guess i dont understand why the screen in brilan for
> > bandwidth
> > > > > > > >>>>shaping is not what you want.
> > > > > > >
>>>>http://www.demarctech.com/products/reliawave-apos/Screens/sh
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >>apping.htm
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >>>>do you have each radios mac address for your subs in its
own
> > > > queue?
> > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>eric
> > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>Mike Kelleher wrote:
> > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>I'm looking for a real time view of usage.  Brilan can
show
> > > > overall
> > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > >>>realtime
> > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>or usage over extended periods.  My understanding is that
> > > > mikrotik
> > > > > > > >>>>>with
> > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > >>>mrtg
> > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>can break it down to 1 min intervals.  That is
> > close to real
> > > > time.
> > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>Mike
> > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>-----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > >>>>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > > > >>>>>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of
> > > > > > > >>>>>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > > > >>>>>Sent: Monday, July 07, 2003 10:09 AM
> > > > > > > >>>>>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > > > >>>>>Subject: Re: [smartBridges] Bandwidth hogs
> > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>Oh hey Tony
> > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>That's pretty cool. I didn't know they had that.
> > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>Michael
> > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > > >>>>>From: "tonylist" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > > > >>>>>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > > > >>>>>Sent: Monday, July 07, 2003 9:33 AM
> > > > > > > >>>>>Subject: RE: [smartBridges] Bandwidth hogs
> > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>To be 100% its $339 :)
> > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > >
>>>>>http://www.demarctech.com/products/reliawave-apos/Screens/m
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >>ain_screen
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >>>>>s.htm
> > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>Sincerely,  Tony Morella
> > > > > > > >>>>>>Demarc Technology Group, A Wireless Solution Provider
> > > > > > > >>>>>>Office: 908-996-7995 Cell: 908-246-9170 Fax:
908-847-0202
> > > > > > > >>>>>>http://www.demarctech.com
> > > > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>-----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Eric
> > > > Calkins
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>Sent: Monday, July 07, 2003 10:16 AM
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>Subject: Re: [smartBridges] Bandwidth hogs
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>YDI's BCU is the same exact thing as brilan software
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >>expect brilan
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>only costs $330 vs. YDI'd unit $2500
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>eric :)
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>Mikrotik and YDI's BCU
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>Michael
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>  ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>  *From:* Mike Kelleher
> > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>  *To:* [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >><mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>  *Sent:* Monday, July 07, 2003 9:01 AM
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>  *Subject:* RE: [smartBridges] Bandwidth hogs
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>      Is anyone familiar with a monitoring program
> > > > which will
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>      graphically show which mac/ip is currently using
> > what
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>      bandwidth?  I use Brilan but unfortunately it
only
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>shows what
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>      has been used and an over all current usage.
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>      Mike
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>
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