George,
     Thanks for the wild guess I will take anything.. If I pulled one hair out for 
every thing I have tried I would have none.. and I am only 26!!!! So I have some 
hair!!.... These network cards have never even been used before.. FYI I did not post 
in the org. message wa4(problem child) is configured the same as wap1-2-3 the others 
that these radios can connect to..
 
 
Thanks,
Steve Good
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From:    George [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]       
Sent:    Sun 8/3/2003 9:15 AM   
To:      [EMAIL PROTECTED]      
Subject:         Re: [smartBridges] Frustrations        
        
possibly,
In the network connections where the onboard ethernet nic is shown, try right clicking 
on the nic adapter and selecting 'remove from bridge' ?
Wild guesses here.
George 
 
 

        ----- Original Message ----- 
        From: Steve Good <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  
        To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
        Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2003 6:45 AM
        Subject: [smartBridges] Frustrations

         
        
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From:    Steve Good     
Sent:    Sat 8/2/2003 10:10 PM  
To:      [EMAIL PROTECTED]      
Subject:         [smartBridges] Frustrations    
        
        Ok guys I need some help here. I am frustrated.....here is the setup....   on 
one tower we have 2 ABpro with 180 antennas and then also a ABTotal (it is the bridge 
back to our site where the POP is. At the POP we have 2 ABpro's.   Here is the 
problem.... on the tower we have wap5 (bridge) wap3(one customer on it) wap4 (trying 
to get customers on it)   I have tried to set two clients up no with no luck. I have 3 
radios that I have tried.. These 3 ABTotals are really starting to suck in my 
opinion.... The flakiness is hard to deal with when you have sites that are set up 
150miles from the main office. of the 3 radios here is the problems..
         
        1. The radios can see wap4 and accociate with it. The clients can ping both 
wap4 and wap3  and wap5.   But not anything on the other side of the bridge. These 
radios get a address when I run the repair connection in XP but it says the repair 
failed. I can not get any kind of traffic to pass.I have updated the firmware, reset, 
reset,reset and reset again and again and again and the damn things still do it.   But 
here is the kicker... I take these same 3 radios and try to connect to wap3 wap1 or 
wap2 (1&2 on the other side of the bridge) the radios work like a champ..... Now to 
further complicate it.. I can take one of the 3 radios and plug it into my laptop and 
it works on wap4... plug it back into the customers machine and the friggin thing does 
not work. So that proves that wap4 is working and passing traffic.. just not taking 
anything from these 3 radios when in a customer machine. one machine is a gateway 
laptop w/built-in network card.. and other is a dell also with a built in card.
         
        I also decided to take my radio from home that has not had 1 issue since I 
installed 2 months ago and I put it up at the custmers site and it would work on my 
laptop but not their machne..... both customers machines are XP home... my laptop XP 
Pro...I have alot of good to say about AB products and alot of bad... There is not a 
good troubleshooting area on their website to help out. I am sure with all the issues 
we have we can give them the info for it.. I dont want to ahve to save 1600 messages 
just to go back and look to see if someone else has the same one... It is just 
frustrating when you have to tell a customer that you have tried 3 radios and none of 
them work and you have to come back. It really makes them wonder about the quality of 
the equipment.  If any one has any ideas I would really like to hear them...
         
         
        Thanks,
        Steve Good
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From:    John Hokenson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]        
Sent:    Sat 8/2/2003 9:03 PM   
To:      [EMAIL PROTECTED]      
Subject:         Re: [smartBridges] Towers      
        
        I have to side with Marlon....you get too much off topic stuff going and 
Smartbridges will stop listing to the list and you have lost your factory tech support 
on the list.
         
        USe the other lists.
         
        JH

                ----- Original Message ----- 
                From: Joe Email <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  
                To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
                Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2003 6:12 PM
                Subject: RE: [smartBridges] Towers

                Marlon
                 
                I'm not trying to argue,  but I respectfully disagree
                I still say if you are using sB radios and anything that concerns them 
are relevant, ie towers, servers, routers,  backhauls, battery backup, solar power,  
antennas,  etc.
                Why should you have to monitor several sites if you are using sB 
radios,  this one is hard enough to keep with
                Don't take this the wrong way, I may need your advice sometime
                 
                 
                My observation
                Joe K
                 

                        -----Original Message-----
                        From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of 
Marlon Schafer (509-982-2181)
                        Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2003 7:01 PM
                        To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
                        Subject: Re: [smartBridges] Towers
                        
                        
                        righto.  But this particular list is there for support of the 
RADIO's not everything else.  There are 2 other good email lists and a web based forum 
designed for generic questions.
                         
                        That help?
                        marlon
                         

                                ----- Original Message ----- 
                                From: Joe Email <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  
                                To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
                                Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2003 4:14 PM
                                Subject: RE: [smartBridges] Towers

                                OK Marlon
                                 
                                I've seen this happen more than once on this site
                                For some reason or another someone only wants to talk 
about the subject they want to talk about
                                I would think if you are a smartBridges user and you 
were using them on a tower and you wanted to ask about a tower or 
                                anything concerning these radios you should be able to 
post a question
                                Some of us may not be as learned as others
                                Why not ask questions to the people using the same 
radios as you are
                                 
                                My observations
                                Joe K

                                        -----Original Message-----
                                        From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL 
PROTECTED] Behalf Of Marlon Schafer (509-982-2181)
                                        Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2003 6:06 PM
                                        To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
                                        Subject: Re: [smartBridges] Towers
                                        
                                        
                                        btw guys, i didn't notice what list this is 
on.  These generic questions really belong on the [EMAIL PROTECTED] list rather than 
the TT tech support one.
                                         
                                        thanks
                                        marlon
                                         

                                        ----- Original Message ----- 
                                        From: John Hokenson <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
 
                                        To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
                                        Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2003 11:26 AM
                                        Subject: Re: [smartBridges] Towers

                                        $2500 is not expensive compared to spending 
$500 a month to be on someone else's towe.
                                         
                                        JH

                                        ----- Original Message ----- 
                                        From: Dennis Burgess <mailto:[EMAIL 
PROTECTED]>  
                                        To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
                                        Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2003 11:11 AM
                                        Subject: Re: [smartBridges] Towers

                                        Ouch.  Thats what I have been finding out.  
Much simpler and cheaper to run off other towers unless you have the cash to outlay :(
                                         
                                        Any other suggestions?
                                         
                                        Dennis
                                         

                                        ----- Original Message ----- 
                                        From: Gloria Vester <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
 
                                        To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
                                        Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2003 1:00 PM
                                        Subject: Re: [smartBridges] Towers

                                        We built our own tower and it was rather 
inexpensive.  I have a friend who was in the two way radio business for 40 years and 
built lots of towers, so he was very helpful.  We bought the 100' steel tower (Rohn 
25G) from Hutton (www.huttononline.com), picked it up locally, for less than $1k.  We 
used friends / relatives for labor (free) so the only additional cost was the 
concrete, rebar, guy wires, and miscellaneous hardware.  It was not that difficult to 
build, took us about 4 days, mainly due to the over 100 degree heat.  Total investment 
was less than $2.5k.  If you need any help with how to build one, what parts to buy, 
want to see pictures of ours going up, etc., just email me offline ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 
and I will be happy to help.
                                         
                                        Gloria

                                        ----- Original Message ----- 
                                        From: Dennis Burgess <mailto:[EMAIL 
PROTECTED]>  
                                        To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
                                        Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2003 12:50 PM
                                        Subject: [smartBridges] Towers

                                        I was wonder what everyone is doing for 
towers?  I have high trees in my area, 70 foot high in some cases.  I'm running off a 
radio station tower now, but what other options are there?  I have found a 100 foot 
telescoping tower for like $3,200 bucks, but you need a crane and a big ass crew just 
to get the thing up, not to mention the guy wires.   
                                         
                                        Anyone have any suggestions?  
                                         
                                        Dennis
                                         

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