The APP in client bridge mode handles the MAC address correctly, but will only talk to an access point that uses the address 4 headers.
The AB will talk to any access point, but doesn't handle the MAC addresses correctly. (It won't pass DHCP through to the clients) John ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eje Gustafsson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Joe Email" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, August 16, 2003 05:55 PM Subject: Re: [smartBridges] APPO furstrations.. > Yepp in client bridge mode the aPP works like a airBridge (with one > difference that the MAC address is handled correctly) > > Best regards, > Eje Gustafsson mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > The Family Entertainment Network http://www.fament.com > Phone : 620-231-7777 Fax : 620-231-4066 > - Your Full Time Professionals - > Mikrotik OEM Dealer - Online store http://www.fament.net > -- > JE> Eje > JE> I have a question for you > JE> We ordered a new aBO a couple days ago to do more testing with > JE> We could never get it to associate, we tried everything > JE> We have a spare aPPo, we have never tried this but can't you just set the > JE> aPPO in client > JE> bridge mode and then it will act lide an airBridge?? > > JE> thanks > JE> Joe K > > > JE> -----Original Message----- > JE> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > JE> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Eje Gustafsson > JE> Sent: Saturday, August 16, 2003 6:57 PM > JE> To: Blazen Wireless > JE> Subject: Re: [smartBridges] APPO furstrations.. > > > JE> Question how many customers do you have that are running in 2Mbit or > JE> 1Mbit mode ? > JE> Unless there been some serious changes in the latest firmwares and in > JE> the new hardware have 3-4 people download a combined 500kbps should be > JE> no problem. > JE> But from your explanation it sounds like there is another problem > JE> somewhere. > JE> What are the signal levels of your clients ? what speeds are they > JE> associated at ? If you have ONE active client assoicated at 1Mbit > JE> speeds then your entire cell is running in 1Mbit mode so figure around > JE> 300-500kbit throughput. > JE> How do you determine they are sending 500Kbit ? How many packages are > JE> they transferring ? What type of traffic ? do you allow client to > JE> client communication ? > JE> You leave out a lot for us to properly figure out why your cell is > JE> running so slow. > > JE> Best regards, > JE> Eje Gustafsson mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > JE> The Family Entertainment Network http://www.fament.com > JE> Phone : 620-231-7777 Fax : 620-231-4066 > JE> - Your Full Time Professionals - > JE> eBay UserID : macahan > JE> --- > JE> searchable smartBridges mailing list archive. > JE> http://www.mail-archive.com/smartbridges40part-15.org/ > JE> -- > BW>> I have switched to many channels and having both at chan 3 work the > JE> best. > BW>> Yes I was doing tests while others were downloading and those were the > JE> times > BW>> people were complaining. Your right that you think it is net congestion > JE> but > BW>> should it not handle more then just a few users who when downloading are > BW>> only downloading at minimal speeds. I mean it should not get that bad > JE> when > BW>> only a couple users are on and say a 4th or 5th person gets on and cant > JE> even > BW>> surf and gets page can not be displayed errors because the net is so > BW>> congested and the bottle neck is at the APPO? When the system is > JE> hammered > BW>> ( 4-5 users downloading no more then say 500KBPS combined) I can ping my > BW>> backhaul radio at the tower (canopy stuff) and it is fine. If I try and > JE> ping > BW>> an APPO while its hammered with users I time out all over the place! > > > BW>> ----- Original Message ----- > BW>> From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > BW>> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > BW>> Sent: Saturday, August 16, 2003 3:16 PM > BW>> Subject: Re: [smartBridges] APPO furstrations.. > > > BW>> Are you running your download tests when none of your other customers > JE> are > BW>> using the system? Previously you mentioned that you're throttling some > BW>> users > BW>> at 900k. If you get 4 or 5 of those all downloading simultaneously on > JE> an 11 > BW>> meg system, you're going to end up with a saturated network. If you've > JE> got > BW>> a > BW>> few of those guys running Kazaa, for example, it'll kill your network. > JE> If > BW>> you're running your tests at the same time that they're downloading, > JE> you'll > BW>> probably have trouble. > > BW>> Also, are you sure that your AP is running at 11 mbps? Maybe for some > BW>> reason > BW>> it's running at 2 or even 1 mbps. Even if you don't have it set to run > JE> at 1 > BW>> or 2, maybe interferrence is causing it to auto-fallback. > > BW>> Have you tried switching channels, to see what happens. I've had > JE> problems > BW>> before running on a particular channel, even though from everything I > JE> could > BW>> tell there was no more noise on that channel than on any other. > JE> Switching > BW>> to > BW>> another channel fixed it. > > BW>> Craig > > > BW>> Quoting Blazen Wireless <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > >>> Okay I have ran test on idle computers and get terrible pings and time > BW>> outs > >>> when others are either downloading or uploading via the same radio and a > >>> little better pings if the clients are on different radios (appo's) > >>> Throughput test just plain suck when someone is on downloading say a file > >>> at > >>> 500kbps and I tray to download a file from my local webserver within our > >>> own > >>> network over the APPO's. So it seems that with 20 people or so we have > >>> maxed > >>> out these radios? I thought 128 was the max? If it cant handle more then > BW>> 20 > >>> people I am going to ditch this whole project and go back to Orinoco > BW>> stuff. > >>> I cant keep having people complain. This all happened after switching > JE> both > >>> AP to APPO's > >>> > >>> > >>> What is the max anyone has on any one APPO right now and what is the max > >>> users you have seen on at they same time and have you run tests to see > BW>> what > >>> the download upload is on one or two of the clients? > >>> > >>> > >>> Thanks > >>> > >>> > >>> ----- Original Message ----- > >>> From: "Colin Watson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>> Sent: Friday, August 15, 2003 7:23 AM > >>> Subject: Re: [smartBridges] APPO furstrations.. > >>> > >>> > >>> I'd give: > JE> http://www.ixiacom.com/enterprise/Chariot.php?section=10#console > >>> a > >>> try. Grab the console, install it on your laptop, grab the endpoint for > BW>> the > >>> consumer's PC, and get them to run it. Then conduct throughput tests via > >>> the > >>> chariot console from the backbone side of the AP through to the customer. > >>> Should provide you information on throughput TCP/UDP etc. > >>> > >>> ----- Original Message ----- > >>> From: "Blazen Wireless" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>> Sent: Friday, August 15, 2003 2:32 PM > >>> Subject: Re: [smartBridges] APPO furstrations.. > >>> > >>> > >>> > 1 queue per customer on the software.. > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > ----- Original Message ----- > >>> > From: "Gino A. Villarini" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>> > Sent: Friday, August 15, 2003 4:09 AM > >>> > Subject: RE: [smartBridges] APPO furstrations.. > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > How are you setting your queques?, the BCU has individual queques, are > >>> you > >>> > using 1 queque per customer or are you using 1 queque for many > BW>> customers? > >>> > > >>> > Gino > >>> > > >>> > -----Original Message----- > >>> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Blazen Wireless > >>> > Sent: Friday, August 15, 2003 1:10 AM > >>> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>> > Subject: Re: [smartBridges] APPO furstrations.. > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > I am using a BCU between the t-1 router and the clients > >>> > ----- Original Message ----- > >>> > From: "Eje Gustafsson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>> > To: "Blazen Wireless" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>> > Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2003 9:00 PM > >>> > Subject: Re: [smartBridges] APPO furstrations.. > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > You need a bandwidth manager on your network and bandwidth limit your > >>> > clients. > >>> > > >>> > Plus if your doing a completely bridge network then you seriously > >>> > needs to start doing some routing on your network or else things will > >>> > not work. > >>> > > >>> > Best regards, > >>> > Eje Gustafsson mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>> > The Family Entertainment Network http://www.fament.com > >>> > Phone : 620-231-7777 Fax : 620-231-4066 > >>> > - Your Full Time Professionals - > >>> > eBay UserID : macahan > >>> > --- > >>> > searchable smartBridges mailing list archive. > >>> > http://www.mail-archive.com/smartbridges40part-15.org/ > >>> > -- > >>> > BW> Okay guys here is a question I know SB says they can have up to 128 > >>> > clients associated to the APPO. I have aprox 22 on each one and they > JE> are > >>> > totally crapping out by that mean I get 4-5 users on > >>> > BW> downloading at any given time and I swear to you pings just go to > >>> hell > >>> > as high as 200-300 and lows about 30ms. I have tried EVERYTHING RTS CTS > >>> > different channels WEP no WEP anything and > >>> > BW> everything and it has got me by the balls and I am tired of clients > >>> > calling me complaining it is slow. It used to be awesome with 4-5 users > >>> > total on it and even 10 users but after that its just > >>> > BW> gone down hill. > >>> > > >>> > BW> Any suggestion would GREATLY be appreciated. > >>> > > >>> > BW> two APPO's each connected to a 500mw Amp 50 ft of coax LMR 400 and > >>> then > >>> > to a 13DB 90* pac wireless ant one facing north and one facing south > BW>> both > >>> on > >>> > chan 3 I know I know you will say interference > >>> > BW> from each other I tried separating and it made no difference it > >>> actually > >>> > got worse I even had one appo in client bridge mode to check > BW>> interference > >>> > and I saw nothing form the APPO right next to it > >>> > BW> and very few other Access points out in the field. Most were at > JE> rssi > >>> 20 > >>> > maybe 30% and link 20%. > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > BW> PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE help me with any ideas I am all out I have > >>> worked > >>> > on this all week I have a remote pop that is fed by the main two APPO's > >>> and > >>> > the two customers on that radio can ping the > >>> > BW> remote appo all day long with less then 5 ms yet when you try and > >>> ping > >>> > the main appos the pings are all over the place.. > >>> > > >>> > BW> Oh yea most all signals at eh APPO's from the client show (not sure > >>> how > >>> > accurate) 80 -100 RSSI some just under 80% and link about the same so I > >>> > don't know if this could hamper it I have tried > >>> > BW> with a couple clients setting the APPO and ABO to autofallback > BW>> speeds > >>> > and that seemed to help for a couple people that were far out about 4-5 > >>> > miles people up close seem to be fine.. > >>> > > >>> > BW> 13-19db ants on each install > >>> > > >>> > BW> HELPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPP > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > BW> Martin > >>> > > >>> > -- > >>> > [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] > >>> > > >>> > The PART-15.ORG smartBridges Discussion List > >>> > To Join: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type subscribe > >>> > smartBridges <yournickname> > >>> > To Remove: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type unsubscribe > >>> > smartBridges) > >>> > Archives: http://archives.part-15.org > >>> > > >>> > The PART-15.ORG smartBridges Discussion List > >>> > To Join: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type subscribe > >>> > smartBridges <yournickname> > >>> > To Remove: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type unsubscribe > >>> > smartBridges) > >>> > Archives: http://archives.part-15.org > >>> > > >>> > The PART-15.ORG smartBridges Discussion List > >>> > To Join: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type subscribe > >>> > smartBridges <yournickname> > >>> > To Remove: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type unsubscribe > >>> > smartBridges) > >>> > Archives: http://archives.part-15.org > >>> > > >>> > The PART-15.ORG smartBridges Discussion List > >>> > To Join: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type subscribe > >>> smartBridges <yournickname> > >>> > To Remove: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type unsubscribe > >>> smartBridges) > >>> > Archives: http://archives.part-15.org > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> The PART-15.ORG smartBridges Discussion List > >>> To Join: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type subscribe > >>> smartBridges <yournickname> > >>> To Remove: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type unsubscribe > >>> smartBridges) > >>> Archives: http://archives.part-15.org > >>> > >>> The PART-15.ORG smartBridges Discussion List > >>> To Join: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type subscribe > BW>> smartBridges > >>> <yournickname> > >>> To Remove: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type unsubscribe > >>> smartBridges) > >>> Archives: http://archives.part-15.org > >>> > >>> > > > BW>> The PART-15.ORG smartBridges Discussion List > BW>> To Join: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type subscribe > BW>> smartBridges <yournickname> > BW>> To Remove: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type unsubscribe > BW>> smartBridges) > BW>> Archives: http://archives.part-15.org > > BW>> The PART-15.ORG smartBridges Discussion List > BW>> To Join: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type subscribe > JE> smartBridges <yournickname> > BW>> To Remove: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type unsubscribe > JE> smartBridges) > BW>> Archives: http://archives.part-15.org > > JE> -- > JE> [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] > > JE> The PART-15.ORG smartBridges Discussion List > JE> To Join: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type subscribe > JE> smartBridges <yournickname> > JE> To Remove: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type unsubscribe > JE> smartBridges) > JE> Archives: http://archives.part-15.org > > > JE> The PART-15.ORG smartBridges Discussion List > JE> To Join: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type subscribe smartBridges <yournickname> > JE> To Remove: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type unsubscribe smartBridges) > JE> Archives: http://archives.part-15.org > > -- > [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] > > The PART-15.ORG smartBridges Discussion List > To Join: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type subscribe smartBridges <yournickname> > To Remove: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type unsubscribe smartBridges) > Archives: http://archives.part-15.org > The PART-15.ORG smartBridges Discussion List To Join: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type subscribe smartBridges <yournickname> To Remove: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type unsubscribe smartBridges) Archives: http://archives.part-15.org
