I agree.  I refuse to put anything on my network that I don't have complete 
control over.  IMO, it's a huge liability if you're relying on someone else to 
administer something as critical as a router or a server.

Craig


Quoting Scott Damron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> That will obviously be much better.  However, I still would hesitate to
> allow my provider complete control over my router.  I have quite a few
> "Tweaked" routers, we run wccp, cef and a few other things that I need
> to know are running correctly.  Just my .02, Not being a smart ass or
> anything.
>  
> Scott
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Blazen Wireless
> Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2003 10:24 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [smartBridges] HELP net traffic and where is it coming from
> 
> 
> Well that is true if I had a Cisco router I would be able to do that but
> megapath gave me this cheesy Siemens router and they did not install any
> kind of firewall software installed so I cant make any rules in it or I
> would have done this long ago. The attack stopped so I am not to worried
> anymore.. but you are right with the new managed router from AT&T I will
> request certain IP schemes to be blocked..
>  
>  
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: Scott  <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Damron 
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2003 10:15 AM
> Subject: RE: [smartBridges] HELP net traffic and where is it coming from
> 
> It is not really your providers problem.  If you are an ISP, you need to
> know how to manage your router.  That is not meant to be a slam or
> anything, but if you have traffic coming into your network, you need to
> know where it is from and how to manage it.
>  
> Scott
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Blazen Wireless
> Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2003 9:51 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [smartBridges] HELP net traffic and where is it coming from
> 
> 
> I don't have ping.exe in there?? I also tried ICMP I am calling my
> provider to block both their class C blocks from ever getting to me. My
> partner went to go pay them a visit OHH man I feel sorry for them HE IS
> PISSED! 
>  
>  
>  
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: Bobby Bounds <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2003 9:25 AM
> Subject: Re: [smartBridges] HELP net traffic and where is it coming from
> 
> On your Win2K box, go to 'Services' and look for ping.exe.
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: Blazen Wireless <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2003 9:42 AM
> Subject: Re: [smartBridges] HELP net traffic and where is it coming from
> 
> Well it does not appear to be the mail linux box as much as it is the
> dns server win 2000 what's strange is I can physically unplug the cable
> from the box and the outgoing traffic stops yet the incoming is still
> going??? I unplug the wan and it goes away..
>  
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: Scott Damron <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2003 8:30 AM
> Subject: RE: [smartBridges] HELP net traffic and where is it coming from
> 
> If you are running an old linux box that you don't have a root password
> for, that means it is more than likely out of date as far as patches go.
> That means it could possibly be "Rooted" and that is not a good thing!!!
> There are alot of DNS DDOS attachs out there, I would download ethereal
> and watch the traffic VERY closely for a couple of hours.
>  
> Scott
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Blazen Wireless
> Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2003 8:16 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [smartBridges] HELP net traffic and where is it coming from
> 
> 
> I have Brilan bandwidth control and for kicks I put my servers behind it
> and just yesterday I noticed that I have a steady 250kbps up and down on
> my DNS and my mail server I unplug the Lan connection to my T-1 and the
> problem goes away so I know it is not my wireless customers? I did a
> sweep and found nor worms on my 2000 machine I do have Linux 6.4 machine
> that I don't know root so cant run any kind of scan but it appears that
> it is coming from the WWW? how can I tell what IP or where this is
> coming from its almost like a DNS??? things are functioning normal but a
> little slow since this is taking some of the bandwidth?? can or would my
> ISP (megapath) be able to tell where it is coming from???
>  
> I have a strange feeling the WAR has started between me and the
> competition since they threatened to do something for their 3 customers
> jumping ship and coming to me because of their poor service!
>  
> I have TCP IP Dump but cant really see any thing specific to those IP
> addresses??
>  
> Martin & Steve
> Blazen Wireless
> 
> www.blazenwireless.com
> 
> 


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