Okay this slow down is really killing me I have all users turned off that appear to be sending any kind of arp but this was not what was causing the slowdowns. I have two users on right now one downloading at 700kbps and the other one my slow customer just trying to surf and cant due it due to ping rates we beyond out of control 300-400 and packet loss.
I turn off the one customer who is downloading and the problem resolves. I called the customer downloading and they are doing Microsoft patches on their machines right now so its not a virus. What gives why can one person not taking up the full bandwidth screw the whole system I mean every one else is at a dead stand still?? To me this is a problem in the radio APPO not being able to talk to two radios at the same time at two different speeds this thing is totally just sh**ing all over itself? Anyone else see this happen I had the APPO set to 1 meg only 2 meg and 5.5 and also 11 but nothing seems to help! I have RTS set to 800 on the clients and that made no difference I give up this customer wants me to come pull the equipment.. Any ideas? HELP! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Radabaugh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 6:02 PM Subject: Re: [smartBridges] Slow down problems This can get tricky. You need to be on a port that sees all of the traffic - read that as 'not a switch port'. By definition a switch will only show you packets destined for your computer. If you really want to see what going on you need a hub or a managed switch that can replicate all traffic onto a port. Another option is to use a wireless card in promiscious mode - a mode where you see all of the traffic. Ethereal will do this with (I think) most common wireless cards. Mark Radabaugh Amplex (419) 720-3635 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pascal Losier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 5:41 PM Subject: RE: [smartBridges] Slow down problems > > Just a small question, > > When running ethereal, Do you run it directly on the router > (ex.Mikrotik) or on any system connected to the router. > > Also does it matter if the system running ethereal is log via PPPOE ???? > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Blazen Wireless > Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 6:12 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [smartBridges] Slow down problems > > > HAHA well then my router has the virus I get like over 2000 arp request > from the router in less then 20 min which I think is way out of control > it always is asking who has what IP etc. I was told this is normal in > order for the router to know what IP has what mac etc.. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Scott Damron" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 12:15 PM > Subject: RE: [smartBridges] Slow down problems > > > A WHOLE bunch of arp requests. If you run ethereal, you would see > upwards of 30 or 40% ARP requests. Some of the viruses cause ARP > storms. > > Scott > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Blazen Wireless > Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 12:09 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [smartBridges] Slow down problems > > > What do you mean check arp I know how to check it but what am I looking > for?? > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Scott Damron" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 11:37 AM > Subject: RE: [smartBridges] Slow down problems > > > Check ARP. > > Scott > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Blazen Wireless > Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 11:17 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [smartBridges] Slow down problems > > > I have done that already and there is no ICMP other then me pinging the > radios It doesn't happen when there is no one online it only happens > when a few close users get on and start to surf and then the far users > have a hard time with dropped packets and slow speeds and high pings. I > just thing I need to open up another AP closer to them and keep my > distance down to under 5 miles. The one person having the hardest time > is about 5.6 miles which is closer then my 7.2 mile customer who is > doing great and pointed at the same radio APPO. It might just be this > person is in a bad area with more interference is what I am thinking and > I also may need to raise her ant a smidge.. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 11:47 AM > Subject: Re: [smartBridges] Slow down problems > > > Every time I've experienced interference (numerous times), it hasn't > affected ping times. From what I've seen, it usually causes lost > packets, but not high latency. I don't know if anyone has mentioned > this before (I jumped in in the middle of this thread), but what you're > describing sounds exactly like something I experienced a few weeks ago. > I had about six users with the Welchia virus, and they were causing high > latency all over the network. If you haven't done it already, put a > packet sniffer on the network, and see if you're seeing a lot of icmp > echo traffic. > > Craig > > > Quoting Blazen Wireless <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > Well maybe this is not the problem now I am back to the same issues > > pings up to over 100ms and it seems now more with radios that never > > had problems before I am thinking more of interference now? How many > > of you have seen a drastic increase in SOHO wireless routers popping > > up on your site survey tab when setting up a customer, I s**t you not > > one the other day had 11 > that > > all > > said linksys or the default ssid for dlink stuff. Are those > manufacturers > > within spec it seems more and more are popping up and some with better > > > signal then my tower according to the site survey numbers in the ABO > /ABI > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Scott Damron" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 9:07 AM > > Subject: RE: [smartBridges] Slow down problems > > > > > > Actually, it does not really drop everyone down to 1meg, it just _MAY_ > > > slow down the 11meg folks in order to respond to the 1meg person. Hope > > > that makes sense. > > > > Scott > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of The Wirefree > > Network > > Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 9:08 AM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: RE: [smartBridges] Slow down problems > > > > > > Huh!??!? This seems bass ackwards. If one client associates at 1 > > Meg, it drops everyone down to that speed. Not the other way around. > > Weakest link theory. If a client can not associate at 11 Meg and > > steps it's way down to 1 Meg, then it CAN NOT be forced to connect at > > 11 Meg. However, a client who is close in with 100% RSSI, could be > > stepped down to 1 Meg based on some far out client. > > > > Sully > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Blazen Wireless > > Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2003 11:56 PM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: [smartBridges] Slow down problems > > > > I have throttling in place now thats not the issue. The issue is in my > > > opinion and theory is at what rate the radios associate at.. If they > > are only associating at 1 meg or less then yes you will have > > throughput problems, if I have all my close customers able to > > associate at 11 megs > > (5.5) and my furthest customers only at 1 meg ( 500kbps) then the > > further users are not going to be able to associate at 1 meg but will > be > > forced to associate at 11 megs and since that is not a stable link > they > > will suffer as I kind of proved tonight but cant be 100% sure unless I > > > could verify what speed the users radios are associating at to the AP. > > > In theory the AP cant be associated to 3 to 4 radios all at different > > speeds. They will be associated at the speed of the slowest radio or > the > > fastest depending on what radio has the best link I think? > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Vasu (sB Tech Team) > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2003 11:27 PM > > Subject: RE: [smartBridges] Slow down problems > > > > That's the basics of 802.11 std, when one user hogs the entire > > bandwidth the remaining users have to share the bandwidth, hence > > bandwidth throttling is important to ensure good and stable links to > > all users, I think the XO series access point should solve your > > problem which can provide dedicated bandwidth to every user. > > > > Vasu > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Blazen Wireless > > Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 2:02 PM > > To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' > > Subject: [smartBridges] Slow down problems > > > > Okay I think I have figured out the problem with my system. It seems > > that when users are one (close users) they are associated to the APPO > > at 5.5 to 11 megs possibly and the users that are further away are at > > 1 meg max well if you have the near users at 11 megs tying up the > > radio and the far uses cant connect at a slower speed for a better > > link / speed quality then the far users suffer? am I correct in my > > theory does that make any sense? > > > > So going forward we are going to have to plan some more sites closer > > to the users having issues etc Has anyone else experienced this. I > > cant verify 100% that this is true due to the fact the radios don't > > report what speed they are associated at? 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