Thats the whole downfall to thse radios they dont TELL you at what speed the clients are connecting at. I only assume the ones further out are conencting at slower speeds from the testing I have done.
But all the ones that are out past 3-4 miles have 19DB ARC wireless flat panels or 19db grids from Pac wireless.. I have tried less gain ants and they wont connect at any usable signal. Clients up close have 8-13db gain ant and they are all fine, except when any one person starts to download then the fun begins. Latency up the wazooo and thruput goes to hell for everyone except the or two persons downloading. Most times the toal badnwidth they are using is less then 800KBPS. So to me thi smeans a radio problem not a bandwidth problem. Seems the radios or radio is tied up on one person and is not switching very fast to the others from what I can tell. I have a busy network at night during the day most evertyone is at work and I have a few business clients that dont take much bandwidth. I have tried CTS on client radios from settings as low as 1 to as high as 1600 and it does not seem to make to much of a difference. Quoting George <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Question for you. > What sixe antennas are you using at your subs? The ones that connect at > lower speeds and not faster speeds? > How far away from the AP are they? > Geo > > Blazen Wireless wrote: > > Seems that at night it gets worse for me right now I switched back to 5.5 > > and 11 meg and I lost about 10 customers on one APPO and they would not > re > > associate. Turned back on the 1 and 2 meg and they all came back. When > this > > morning they could connect just fine?? > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Derek Breiland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 6:06 PM > > Subject: Re: [smartBridges] Length out of range numbers > > > > > > Disabling auto fallback may not be a bad idea. It has worked well for > > stabilizing the link especially under heavy load. A perfomace test doing > > both the text and image (www.toast.net) is a good way to generate > traffic. > > It has actually broken the link in some cases. By disabling Auto > fallback > > and disallowing a link speed greater than 2Mps fixed that particular > issue. > > The other advantage of slowing the radios down is essentially the > ability > > to handle additional radios. 30 radios at 11Mps each connecting to a > 11Mps > > creates a lot of 11Mps connections for an 11Mps device to handle. That > is > > the way I see it anyways. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Blazen Wireless" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 2:47 PM > > Subject: Re: [smartBridges] Length out of range numbers > > > > > > > >>Well just recently I set them (APPO's) to 5.5 and 11 meg thats it with > >>outfall back set to enabled > >>----- Original Message ----- > >>From: "Breiland, Derek" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 12:41 PM > >>Subject: RE: [smartBridges] Length out of range numbers > >> > >> > >>Just curious if what speed you are letting the radios run at? I have > > > > turned > > > >>off auto select fall back on both the APO's and the clients (AirBridge) > in > >>basic settings. I only check the 1Mps and 2Mps boxes in the basic > > > > settings > > > >>on the APO. I am setting all of the clients to connect at 2Mps which is > >>plenty fast - no degradation with that. This has increased the stability > > > > of > > > >>all links considerably especially when a client is doing something very > >>bandwidth intensive. > >> > >>-----Original Message----- > >>From: Sam [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 2:07 PM > >>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>Subject: Re: [smartBridges] Length out of range numbers > >> > >>I have over 30 customers each on two APPOs which seem to handle it just > >>fine (that is, when the APPO is still running.) The only problem I have > >>seen is sometimes the APPO just stops, and the blue light starts blinking > >>steadily off and on, off and on, and I'm unable to log into the device > any > >>further, even through the wire. But I've gotten to the point when that > >>happens I put up another one. (Tired of troubleshooting them.) The only > >>problem is reassociating everyone (Not all of my customers have the > >>roaming option.) > >> > >>Anyhow, they seem to handle at least 30 users without problem. > >> > >>Sam > >> > >> On Fri, 17 Oct 2003, > >>Blazen Wireless wrote: > >> > >> > >>>the APPO goes into a D-link switch with another APPO and a canopy radio > >>>which is set to 10 1/2 duplex. The canopy is flawless and has no errors > > > > at > > > >>>all! its always the APPO that comes back with errors? I see dingle defer > >>>errors and an occasion CTS error I tried swapping the switch to a 10 meg > >> > >>hub > >> > >>>and it made no difference I just think the APPOs cant handle the load of > > > > 9 > > > >>>customers on all the time it just craps out.. > >>> > >>>Each customer that I add on seems to make the system ore and more > >> > >>unstable! > >> > >>>I was under the impression these radios would handle a lot of clients > >> > >>radios > >> > >>>talking to it but I guess now. I am going to have to go with something > >>>else.. > >>> > >>> > >>>The XO is way out of range, I have all the bandwidth and access control > > > > I > > > >>>need at the NOC no need for it in the radio.. > >>> > >>>----- Original Message ----- > >>>From: "Lars Gaarden" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>>Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 11:22 AM > >>>Subject: Re: [smartBridges] Length out of range numbers > >>> > >>> > >>>Blazen Wireless wrote: > >>> > >>> > >>>>What exactly is controlling this number is this > >>>>good or bad? I assume bad I rebooted the appo > >>>>yesterday and am seeing these since about 12pm > >>>>PT yesterday to the tune of about 23,500? > >>> > >>>LengthOutOfRangeRx is one of the ethernet counters. > >>> > >>>According to Cisco, the meaning is: > >>> > >>>"Length out of range > >>> Incremented for each frame received where the 802.3 > >>> length field in the packet did not match the number > >>> of bytes actually received." > >>> > >>>What is connected to the aPPO on the ethernet side? > >>>Do you see any other ethernet error counters that are > >>>unusually high? 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