That at the point I am at swapping out the AP to something I can control IE
star OS or the demarctech stuff. But the pisser is that SB decided to use
that setting that does not let the APPO associate to anything else then
another APPO so now instead of just a 2 radio AP I have to swap I also have
to swap out 4-5 other APPOS being used as backhauls and or client CPE! so of
course it is going to cost me a ton more then I wanted to spend. I agree
reliability is the key and so far since SB switch assembly lines it gone to
shit I am sorry to say.

I look like a complete asshole right now to my customers and damn it I don't
like it one bit! so I have to do something else with little to no money!

If anyone wants to by some used SB APPO's in good working order please let
me know ASAP as this will help defer the cost of NEW equipment for us.

I have at least 4 -5 APPO's in great working order and will let them all go
for $300 each. If you want them let me know and I will ship them to you as
soon as we take them down so the sooner you pay the quicker I can order new
stuff to replace them and ship to you. I will ship priority mail so they get
to you quick 2-3 days usually..



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Geo_p15sb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 10:09 PM
Subject: Re: [smartBridges] Slow down problems


I feel for you.
But don't give up.
Early on in 1999 when I started our wireless service we were using Nokia
for our gear. I chose Nokia over Breezecom, now Alvarion, because of the
high quality of their cell phones and being a wireless industry leader.
We had problems, constant running up to the tower to reboot. Lockups
sometimes twice a day. Customers who paid us 900.00 to 1200 to get
connected for thiner crucial business needs, were not at all happy.
I swear I have a few thousand less  hairs on my head and still wake up
with nightmares.
And we were getting conflicting information from our supplier. Change
this setting change that setting, reboot this add this router. You can
do this you can't do that.

Eventually we had to give up. But we didn't give up on the wireless we
gave up on Nokia. And for a while, the supplier.

We went with what was working for other ISP's.

I shelved a dozen Nokia radios that cost us about 850.00 each at the
time and bought Teletronics 2 meg map2's. They worked. Cheap little
radios. Dumb little radios but they did work.
Eventually we found that the capacity of the map2 as an ap wasn't really
much more than 30 or so subs.
We also found out what it was to interfere with our selves as well as
the other pitfalls of being uneducated.
We found out that offering broadband to our customers was more than just
a fast internet connection, but rather a reliable service that the
customer can count on, a connection that is there when they turn on
their computer and a connection that didn't involve us to make it work.


In the course of figuring out how to make the Teletronics radios work, I
was a very green green horn, We came in contact with Lonnie Numwieler,
of Valemont networks, this was PRE Star-OS.com . He was handling tech
support for Teletronics, he pitched in for no money and helped us and
advised us.
We learned from Lonnie that little plastic ap's have their shortcomings.
Mostly that they don't have the horsepower to run the software that is
needed to run a solid AP. That would be what makes me shy away from
using a dumb plastic low power ap. That is what makes me advice a
Star-OS or a Mikrotek, or even a straight BSD, linux,etc platform for
your AP and whatever CPE is working reliably.

The wireless list(s) were really helpful, finding out everyones problems
and success's with what they were doing helped us and continue to help
us and guide us today. Without everyone's experiences exposed we would
be lost.

My advice is to not give up on wireless, but to find the different
products that fits what you are doing and  don't be stuck in the one
tool for all the jobs mode.

Step back, take a breather, rethink what you are doing, rethink your
game plan and move forward with caution.

But whatever you do keep moving forward. The rewards of success await you.


Hope this helps.
George








Blazen Wireless wrote:

> We give up!
> We cant add any more users to our system total of 60 split between 2
> APPO's 30 each at max. We added 2 more today and now we have hardly any
> users downloading and best we can do is about 300KBPS down... This
> SUCKS! is it possibly due to all the smoke in the air which I would find
> hard to believe BUT you never know.
>
> What's the deal with the XO stuff is it done it sure could be nice to
> have one to test and see if it is worth $900.. I am very frustrated at
> not being able to figure this out. It all points back to the radios
> (APPO's) not being able to process all the associated radios to it? I
> change the SSID so only a few people 10-12 can associate to the APPO and
> there is NO pro problems. I allow all the users to associate to the APPO
> and WHAM crap city throughput goes to hell pings skyrocket just with one
> user surfing on and off.. how can this NOT point to the radios inability
> to keep up? Why would just idle radios associated to the APPO have such
> a bad effect on the APPO?
>
> I have 6 users ready to cancel due to the crappy service I am getting
> from these radios I don't understand how someone else claims 60 plus
> users on ONE APPO and they are fine? what speeds are you offering what
> are your settings on the APPO and the clients associated to it. What ant
> are you using? any amps etc etc..
>
>
>
>
> Martin & Steve
> Blazen Wireless
>
> www.blazenwireless.com <http://www.blazenwireless.com>


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