Not me--that's Rick Kunze's site....

JH
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "shoffman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2003 3:22 PM
Subject: Re: [smartBridges] OT: AP tower


> Johns disclaimer at the beginning of the PDF is quite important... not
> due to code, but due to liability.  Things like seismic calcs, concrete
> strength, stress analysis, dynamics loads on structure (wind, thermal
> etc..) must all be considered.  If not, and God forbid that tower
> collapses and does something to someone or their property and you do not
> have this documentation.. watch out.  You could be not just in for a
> hell of a whitewash of your corporate funds, but be found PERSONALLY
> liable and criminally negligent, which means your PERSONAL assets are
> gone as well as spending some time inspecting the local prison for
> wireless access.
>
> AS a PE, I am fully aware of the liability that comes with engineering
> design.  And since I am not a Structural Engineer, no way would I want
> that liability.  In the "real" construction world, you go as far as
> getting welders qualified, doing ND testing on welds, doing material
> certifications (point of origin, composition etc..) concrete testing, and
> a WHOLE BUNCH MORE, just so you can say "I did everything in my power to
> ensure a safe and sound tower".  The courts will judge you based on
> industry standards, and industry standard is to do all that stuff...
>
> John, congrats, but you are braver then me man!
>
> Scott
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "John Hokenson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2003 14:59:41 -0800
> Subject: Re: [smartBridges] OT: AP tower
>
> > http://www.do-it-yourself-towers.com/
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Aaron Bennett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2003 2:47 PM
> > Subject: [smartBridges] OT: AP tower
> >
> >
> > > Hey all,
> > >
> > > I can't say how informative this mailing list has been... I've been
> > > holding my question for a while to get a better grip on everything.
> > > Here's my deal:
> > >
> > > I am planning on beginning WISP operations in a fairly rural town in
> > > Northern California. I have run some numbers and it all seems
> > feasible,
> > > but there are a number of variables I was curious if someone had more
> > > information about. I've priced out a T1 line (which seems to be the
> > > least expensive way to start, and I'm sure I'll be able to fill it
> > with
> > > enough subscribers to return investment.
> > >
> > > I've been searching for suitable locations for my main antenna (or at
> > > least the one that I'll start with). Unfortunately, I have not found
> > a
> > > suitable structure for elevation, although I have found an excellent
> > > location that a structure could be made/placed. The site is outside
> > the
> > > end of town, allowing me to broadcast in one direction. The bulk of
> > all
> > > subscribers would fall within .2 to 1.8 miles away.
> > >
> > > Because there is no structure existing, I was curious what someone
> > may
> > > use as a structure. I was considering finding an old farm windmill,
> > and
> > > placing an APPO + 90* sector on that. I am fortunate enough to have
> > > power at this location, and a property less than 500 feet away that
> > > could serve as my NOC.
> > >
> > > I figured that an old metal frame windmill would be a) fairly
> > > inexpensive, b) good height (80'? Or so?) and c) easier to explain
> > than
> > > something looking like a cell tower or the such. Does anyone have
> > > opinion on this? Also, if there's anyone in northern CA that has
> > > experience with what legal limits are for structures, or what kind of
> > > permits are necessary, I would be eternally grateful.
> > >
> > > Sorry for the somewhat OT post; I am, however, planning on using SB
> > > equipment. I've played a little on a aBO and it seems suitable for
> > what
> > > I envision.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Aaron Bennett
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >
> > >
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