Why would PPPoE have anything to do with a virus or a program gone haywire ? PPPoE 
will not help stop a virus or whatever on a single machine from taking down an access 
point, bandwidth control will be your last castle.

---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
From: Roger Howard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date:  Mon, 10 Nov 2003 19:22:51 -0600

>So then PPPoE will not help stop a virus on a single machine from taking
>down an access point? Can anyone confirm, as there are opinions both ways?
>
>Thanks,
>Roger
>
>----- Original Message ----- 
>From: "Lars Gaarden" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Monday, November 10, 2003 7:13 PM
>Subject: Re: [smartBridges] sB Network Issue
>
>
>> Roger Howard wrote:
>> >>The only way you can make sure that an infected client can't wreak havoc
>> >>on the AP is to have bwctrl on the CPE.
>> >>
>> >
>> > This is what I was saying... but Colin Watson says that PPPoE
>encapsulates
>> > everything including ping packets into PPP which does have flow
>control?? Is
>> > this right?
>>
>> PPP over serial lines does have flow control (RTS/CTS and XON/XOFF).
>>
>> RTS/CTS can't be used with PPPoE because it uses the RTS/CTS wires on the
>> serial port (out-of-band signalling).
>>
>> XON/XOFF is in-band, but requires escape codes to insure that payload data
>> is not incorrectly interpreted as XON/XOFF. In order to use escape codes,
>> the PPP peers must negotiate an Async-Control-Character-Map (ACCM) during
>> the LCP phase. The PPPoE RFC states that:
>>
>> http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc2516.html
>> "7. LCP Considerations
>>     [...] An implementation MUST NOT request any of the following options,
>>     and MUST reject a request for such an option:
>>     [...]
>>        Asynchronous-Control-Character-Map (ACCM)"
>>
>> So neither RTS/CTS nor XON/XOFF can be used for PPPoE flow control.
>>
>> -- 
>> LarsG
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