On 20/10/08 08:05 PM, Darren Reed wrote:
> On 20/10/08 11:44 AM, Renee Danson wrote:
>> [security-discuss readers: if you're not familiar with nwam, please see 
>> http://www.opensolaris.org/os/project/nwam/p1spec]
>>
>> IP Filter and IPsec policy rules are part of NWAM locations; this allows you
>> to configure different security policy, depending on where you're connected.
>>   
>
> How will NWAM's locations play with Visual Panels' host based firewall 
> configuration?
> (PSARC/2008/580)

Given no comments thus far regarding this, let me highlight
my concerns.

Most of PSARC/2008/580 has been accepted with "Commited"
interfaces for the various SMF changes. Whilst this is a
fair call without NWAM's locations, I'm concerned that the
interfaces it introduces will either be redundant or not
functional with NWAM locations.

For example, if I define two NWAM locations, home and office,
it is reasonable to expect that the SMF entries for, say,
sshd, are significantly different with respect to what networks
are and are not allowed and that we somehow make this work with
PSARC/2008/580.

At present PSARC/2008/580 is still not putback, so if there
is a well defined need, we can amend the case - but time
isn't on our side if the host base firewall project is going
to make it into the next OpenSolaris release.

My main worry is that PSARC/2008/580 will put us in a corner
that is not at all compatible with NWAM locations. At the
very worst, if we can't get discussion going on this soon,
NWAM locations, in its current guise, could be sent back to
the drawing board from PSARC because it fails to interoperate
with the host based firewalls. The usual rule in PSARC is
that whoever is first gets to make the rules for those that
come later. If we do nothing, this could get unpleasant for
a number of people - especially users.

It would be of benefit if the NWAM project could at least put
a stake in the ground for this work and create an empty PSARC
case so that we have some ability to reference that project.
I'm not going to ask that it decides whether it should be a
fast track or project, just that we need something. If the
NWAM locations project isn't going to be a fast track then
I'd like to suggest that the team puts something together,
post-haste, for an inception review or pre-inception review
so that we can formally address these architectural matters.

Remember: ARC early, ARC often.

Thanks,
Darren

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