Nicolas Williams writes:
> On Mon, Jun 02, 2008 at 10:03:28AM -0700, Richard Elling wrote:
> > In most modern servers, "power off" in the traditional
> > sense of "init 5" is not the same as "turn off the power to
> > the server."  I wonder if the customer is trying to solve the
> > wrong problem?
> 
> Also, shouldn't the UPS notice that the load is gone when the system
> powers itself off?  What's the point of telling the UPS "I'm almost done
> powering off" when the UPS could just notice that you are, in fact, gone?

Frequently, UPS doesn't have just one load.  It will also have:

  - local switches and routers

  - displays and other auxiliary equipment

  - other servers that act as slaves

For that last one, the UPS software (when it starts the shutdown
sequence) uses either some proprietary mechanism or SNMP to tell the
other slave servers that they must also shut down.  They're usually on
their own, though, to get this done in time.  (At least with the
software I've used.)

Worse still, someone could shut down one of the systems plugged into
the UPS *without* intending to pull power for the other systems on the
same UPS, so just looking for a delta won't do it.  There's no good
way for the UPS to know when to shut down.

Has nobody else used APC's proprietary SmartUPS software or the open
source 'nut' (Network UPS Tools; www.networkupstools.org)?

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