Jordan Brown writes:
> James Carlson wrote:
> > I agree that calling out to external scripts is maximally flexible,
> > but be careful: a lot of future cost comes with that flexibility.
> 
> Calling out to a user-provided script seems pretty fundamental.  If it's 
> a user-provided script, then there's no upgrade problem.  The upgrade 
> problem comes if it's a Sun-provided script and the user edits it.

Actually, we have fun in both cases.

If it's user-provided, but then "Sun" (really: the distributor or the
project team or someone else in the OpenSolaris community) decides to
add some supplied scripting, then we have a conflict.  Do we move the
user script aside?  Do we create an alternate scripting mechanism?
Which one goes first?

> Perhaps there are "actions" that are Sun-provided, that might happen to 
> be implemented as shell scripts, and one of the actions is "run 
> user-provided program".  (Note that I say "program" rather than 
> "script"; it should be anything that you can exec, which includes but is 
> not limited to shell scripts.  Let's avoid repeating the /etc/rc*.d 
> discussion :-)

For one example of how nasty this sort of thing can get, look at the
hack-o-rama involved with the pppd scripts on most Linux
distributions.  What started as a simple "I'll exec /etc/ppp/ip-up
when IPCP goes to Opened state" in the original design has become a
set of subdirectories (/etc/ppp/ip-up.d/), a mix of user and vendor
supplied scripts, and an /sbin/rc-like script permanently installed as
/etc/ppp/ip-up (and yet sometimes mistakenly hacked by users) to drive
the whole concoction.

Not going there would probably be an element of a good plan.

> There should probably be a way to trigger multiple actions, so that one 
> can send an SNMP trap *and* send e-mail *and* run a user program, 
> without having to hack the action script.

I agree with that.

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